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[b-hebrew] And Samuel turned back after Saul: the meaning of 1 Samuel 31
- From: Jay Frank <jif95 AT mac.com>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] And Samuel turned back after Saul: the meaning of 1 Samuel 31
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:12:21 -0500
In Robert Alter's "The David Story: A Translation with Commentary of 1 and 2
Samuel," Alter renders 1 Samuel 15:30-31 as follows ...
30. And Saul said, "I have offended. Now show me honor, pray, before the
elders of my people and before Israel, and turn back with me, that I may bow
to the Lord your God."
31. And Samuel turned back from Saul, and Saul bowed to the Lord.
Alter then offers the following comment: "All English versions render this,
erroneously, to indicate that Samuel nevertheless accompanied Saul to the
sacrifice. But the expression 'turn back with,' as in verse 30, and 'turn
back from [literally, after], are antonyms, the latter meaning unambiguously
'to abandon.' (It is precisely the latter idiom that we see in God's
condemnation of Saul in verse 11.) Samuel is completing his rejection of Saul
hre by refusing to accompany him in the cult, shaming him by forcing him to
offer the sacrifice without the officiating of the man of God." [pg.93]
While I very much enjoy Alter's work, I find it remarkable that all English
translations would be in error. Thank you in advance for any light you might
shed on the matter.
L'shalom,
Jay
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[b-hebrew] And Samuel turned back after Saul: the meaning of 1 Samuel 31,
Jay Frank, 07/22/2009
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George Athas, 07/22/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] And Samuel turned back after Saul: the meaning of 1 Samuel 31,
K Randolph, 07/23/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] And Samuel turned back after Saul: the meaning of 1 Samuel 31, George Athas, 07/23/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] And Samuel turned back after Saul: the meaning of 1 Samuel 31,
K Randolph, 07/23/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] And Samuel turned back after Saul: the meaning of 1 Samuel 31,
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