Biblical Hebrew Forum

[James Read <J.Read-2 AT sms.ed.ac.uk>]

Hi,

Quoting K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>:

> James:
> It looks as if you don’t understand simple English either.
>
> Further your timeline below leaves out a couple of events that impinge on
> this discussion:
>
> Between Eden episode and flood there was spreading out of population and
> naming of pre-flood geography.

You're reading this into the text Karl. It simply isn't there. At  
least, not explicitly, at any rate. You are applying circular logic to  
back up your theory.


> So what part of “reuse” do you not understand?

Reuse of what? Places were named for a purpose. The purpose of naming  
the place Cush was that it was inhabited by the offspring of the  
family head Cush. You are reading things into the text that simply  
aren't there. How can you possibly be expected to be taken seriously  
when you continue to do this? All you are achieving is convincing me  
that the only thing that matters to you is to prove the theory right  
and you are willing to interpret *everything* else around this as if  
it was some kind of fundamental truth. This approach isn't doing you  
or your theory any favours.

James Christian

P.S. I appreciate that this is a subject that you feel strongly about  
but please change your tone. Let's try and keep this discussion  
impersonal and objective so that it can value for anybody who reads  
the archives.


> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:43 AM, James Read <J.Read-2 AT sms.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > ----->eden episode----->flood------>birth of Cush-->naming of
> > Cush--->naming the land after Cush because that's where his offspring lived.
> >
> > Please show me how your reuse hypothesis fits into the above timeline.
> >
> > James Christian
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>:
> >
> >  James:
> > > What part of “reuse” do you not understand?
> > >
> > > Karl W. Randolph.
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM, James Read <J.Read-2 AT sms.ed.ac.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi,
> > > > Quoting K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > >  James:
> > > >
> > > > > I just decided not to answer one of your postings in another thread that
> > > > > you
> > > > > started because your answer indicates ignorance of Hebrew language and
> > > > > poetry.
> > > > >
> > > > > As a group, we have had other discussions where the reuse of names for
> > > > > new
> > > > > places and people was an issue, and this is no different. Just because
> > > > > the
> > > > > post-flood land of Cush was named after one of Ham’s sons does not rule
> > > > > out
> > > > > that this was a reuse of a pre-flood name for a new place. The same with
> > > > > Assyria.
> > > > ????????????????????????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am I going to have to draw a time line?
> > > >
> > > > James Christian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  This whole argument is a non-starter.
> > > > > Karl W. Randolph.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, James Read <J.Read-2 AT sms.ed.ac.uk>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  No it isn't a non-starter.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The land of Cush was named after Cush the son of Ham (he hadn't been
> > > > > > born
> > > > > > yet)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assyria was named after Asshur the son of Shem (he hadn't been born yet
> > > > > > either)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please, stop sidestepping the issues and face them head on if you wish
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > theory to be taken seriously at any level.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James Christian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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