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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech
- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
- To: gabe AT cascadeaccess.com, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech
- Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:15:55 EDT
Gabe:
1. You wrote: “Since the ritual [LMLK] is found in widely disparate
settings, I don't
think you can tie MLK to any specific location….”
Excluding North Africa under the Phoenicians (not directly relevant to the
Patriarchal narratives), isn’t it true that MLK (“Molech”?) is an unusual
divine name, in secular history, outside of the coast of northwest Canaan?
Most people called this god Baal or Haddad or Adad, etc., but not MLK.
2. Responding now to both Gabe and Uri Hurwitz (and David Hamuel, who I
believe wants to focus on the medieval pointing done in the Middle Ages), isn’
t )BYMLK in the unpointed Hebrew text of the Patriarchal narratives the
linguistic equivalent of the name Abimilki, the ruler of Ssur/Tyre in the
Amarna
Letters?
Here is a better site for this purpose than Wm. Moran’s translation of the
Amarna Letters, where Anson Rainey sets forth the actual text of the Amarna
Letters (without translation):
http://www.tau.ac.il/humanities/semitic/EA115-162.html
In unpointed text (where we don’t know the vowel sounds in Hebrew MLK), I
see no difference between )BYMLK in Genesis and the following references to
the princeling ruler of Ssur/Tyre in the Amarna Letters: a-bi-mil-ki, at
Amarna Letters EA 150: 2; 152: 2; 154: 2.
The other, more frequent, references in the Amarna Letters to this same
name as “a-bi-LUGAL”, for example at Amarna Letter EA 147: 2, are a little
more difficult to assess, but can be understood as follows. LUGAL is a
Sumerogram meaning “king”. For example, Pharaoh is frequently referred to by
Abimilki as LUGAL. When writing the Sumerogram LUGAL, the scribe was
presumably
mentally thinking either melek/king or Molech. The pagan god Molech’s name
meant “king”. Just as Hebrew uses MLK for both meanings, the Akkadian
cuneiform of the Amarna Letters apparently uses the Sumerogram LUGAL for both
meanings of MLK.
To me, the name )BYMLK in unpointed Biblical Hebrew does not seem
distinguishable from the name of the ruler of Ssur/Tyre in the Amarna Letters:
A-bi-mil-ki. I myself see both such names as honoring the pagan god Molech,
the
guardian god of Late Bronze Age Ssur/Tyre.
3. Is anyone, Gabe or Uri or anyone else, familiar with the name
Abimilki/)BYMLK in secular history except at Ssur/Tyre in northwest Canaan?
Am I not right to see )BYMLK as connoting n-o-r-t-h? )BYMLK is a classic
name for the ruler of Ssur/Tyre, where Molech was that city-state’s guardian
god. But the name )BYMLK makes no secular historical sense at all in a
southwest Canaan geographical context, does it? That’s the specific issue I
was trying to focus on in this thread.
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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[b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
JimStinehart, 04/14/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
George Athas, 04/14/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, Isaac Fried, 04/16/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, K Randolph, 04/15/2009
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
David Hamuel, 04/14/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, K Randolph, 04/15/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
JimStinehart, 04/15/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, George Athas, 04/15/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, Gabe Eisenstein, 04/15/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
JimStinehart, 04/15/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, George Athas, 04/15/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
JimStinehart, 04/16/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, K Randolph, 04/16/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, George Athas, 04/16/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
JimStinehart, 04/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
George Athas, 04/18/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech, K Randolph, 04/18/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
George Athas, 04/18/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] )BYMLK vs. Abimelech vs. Abi-Molech,
George Athas, 04/14/2009
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