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  • From: dwashbur AT nyx.net
  • To: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] names and puns
  • Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:06:45 -0600

I got the Laban connection and all; what I don't get is what you do with the
statement about
having taken whatever it was with sword and bow. When Laban told Jacob in
Gen 31:26
that he had taken the stuff "like spoils of war" he was talking about the way
Jacob just
packed up and took off without so much as a by-your-leave, not how he
acquired all of it.
The story of how Jacob came to own most of Laban's assets is a great story of
cunning, but
not taking by force. So what do you do with the sword & bow part?

On 13 Oct 2008 at 22:41, K Randolph wrote:

> Dave:
>
> We read in the text that Laban lived in Padan Aram, and he was called an
> Aramean (e.g. Genesis 31:20) while the town of Shechem was a Hivite town,
> further Jacob did not remain in Shechem after his sons (not he) took the
> town. Rather Jacob remained a tent dweller, moving from place to place until
> he went to Egypt.
>
> Therefore I understand Genesis 48:22 in the context of the statements as
> referring to his livestock which he took from an Aramean (Laban) rather than
> a set piece of land in the territory of Canaan.
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:46 PM, <dwashbur AT nyx.net> wrote:
>
> > Karl,
> > I can't speak for Gabe, obviously, but I'm gonna need a LOT more
> > exposition
> > on this idea
> > before I can respond to it. I agree there's no connection with the town
> > of
> > Shechem, but I
> > don't see the connection with Gen 31:26, either. More info please, my
> > friend!
> >
> > On 13 Oct 2008 at 20:49, K Randolph wrote:
> >
> > > Dave and Gabe:
> > > Both of you are making an assumption that the property that Jacob took
> > > is
> > > land. But I understand it that the Amorite in question was Laban, his
> > uncle
> > > and father-in-law, and the property was his wives, children and
> > livestock,
> > > as mentioned in Genesis 31:26. Therefore the connection with the town of
> > > Shechem is completely spurious.
> > >
> > > Karl W. Randolph.
> > >
> >
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Dave Washburn
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