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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? andtheMassoretes
- From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? andtheMassoretes
- Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:16:28 +0000
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Kevin P. Edgecomb wrote:
> By segholization I mean the shift from nominal QaTxL (where x represents
> short a/i/u) to QeTeL, a process that clearly began before the lists I
> noted, but was apparently still underway. Jersome knew shamshon, not yet
> shimshon, and so on. I personally tend to differentiate between "vowel
> length" as interior to usage with each vowel (tsere vs seghol), and "long
> vowels" or "short vowels", the longer or more open vowels being the /a/,
> /o/, /u/ vowels, and the shorter, more closed being the /i/ and /e/ vowels.
> So, this kind of length/openness is an issue of quality, not quantity.
> There is very undoubtedly a specific linguistic terminology for this, though
> I don't know it. My original usage in the blog post was only to point out
> that segholization and a general shortening of vowels of which it is a
> symptom had begun prior to the appearance of the given lists, sometime in
> the early to the mid-first millennium. Such transliterations are the only
> objective evidence for such a vocalic change. It's unfortunate that they're
> seldom of sufficient quality to be trusted to reflect contemporary
> pronunciation.
Where in the transliterations, though, do you see any example of this
shortening?
Yitzhak Sapir
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Kevin P. Edgecomb, 06/18/2008
- Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ?and theMassoretes, Bryant J. Williams III, 06/18/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/18/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Kevin P. Edgecomb, 06/18/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/18/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Kevin P. Edgecomb, 06/20/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/20/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? andtheMassoretes,
Kevin P. Edgecomb, 06/20/2008
- Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? andtheMassoretes, Yitzhak Sapir, 06/21/2008
- Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ?andtheMassoretes, Kevin P. Edgecomb, 06/22/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? andtheMassoretes,
Kevin P. Edgecomb, 06/20/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/20/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Kevin P. Edgecomb, 06/20/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/18/2008
- Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes, Vadim Cherny, 06/19/2008
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Re: [b-hebrew] Transliterations from Hebrew to Greek to ? and theMassoretes,
Kevin P. Edgecomb, 06/18/2008
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