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- From: Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk AT concentric.net>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH
- Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:34:22 -0500
They are two different names.
Rashi says that when G-d told Moshe His name was Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh, He used "Ehyeh" twice, because He was telling him to tell the people that - just as He is with them in this difficult time, He will be with them also in future tribulations. This is a vague recollection, I am too tired to look it up exactly, now...
And we had this conversation before, on this list - that Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh is future, and I don't remember why people said they translated it as present, but all the translations I have, as well as all of Chazal who comment on this Name, refer to it as future.
I don't know why people can't just accept that they are two of G-d's many Names, and why they need, instead, to say they are conjugations of a verb. They are used in the Torah as Names, and, after all, G-d can name Himself anything He pleases... That these two have the letters of the verb "to be" in them, is also not mysterious, since G-d is Existence itself.
Shoshanna
Shoshanna,
How do you relate YHWH with the AHYH in the previous verses of Exodus?
Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk AT concentric.net> wrote:
Yes, that makes a difference
I think that the reason that this Name reminds one of the verb "to
be", is because it is referring to the fact that G-d exists in the
past, in the present, and in the future, simultaneously.
Shoshanna Walker
Shoshanna,
I should have said "when HWH is used as a verb." Sorry.
I was assuming that the name YHWH was a reflection of the third
person singular verb form. This seems to be a possibility, correct?
John C. Wilking
Shoshanna Walker wrote:
Of course I know that it is a name and not a verb or a noun, but someone on
this list declared that it was used as a verb, I wanted him to cite where he
thought it was used as a verb.
Shoshanna
Shoshanna,question
YHWH is not a verb and not a noun, it is a personal name. The entire
"morphological" argument hinges on the, in my opinion undecidable,
as to whether Y and H are radicals or personal pronouns.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
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Subject: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH
>I realize that my posts re G-d's authorship of the Torah, get ignored
> here, but this is a real question that I am asking: Can - at least -
> the person who claimed that YHWH is used as a verb - answer me,
> please! I sincerely have no recollection of that.
>
> Shoshanna
>
>
> When/where is it used as a verb?
>
> Shoshanna
>
>
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> Ted,
>
> It's not different syntax, it's different morphology and I realize
> that. But I'm not sure that we know that the verbal aspect is
> emphasized. Hebrew doesn't seem to have a standard copula like Greek
> and when YHWH is used as a verb it often is just a helping verb.
>
> John C. Wilking
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Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH,
Isaac Fried, 12/26/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH,
Shoshanna Walker, 12/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH, John Wilking, 12/26/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH, TedBro, 12/26/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH,
Shoshanna Walker, 12/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH, John Wilking, 12/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH, Shoshanna Walker, 12/26/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] ASKING AGAIN Re: YHWH,
Shoshanna Walker, 12/26/2007
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