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- From: JoeWallack AT aol.com
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] chalal - perforate/pierce?/KRH
- Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:53:23 EDT
In a message dated 9/6/2007 1:04:17 AM Central Daylight Time, if AT math.bu.edu
writes:
5. The basic meaning of XALAL is also 'to include, to enclose, to
encompass, to comprise, to surround, to generate', except that the
enclosed may be here but empty space, as just pointed out by Shoshana
Walker. Thus XALON, 'window' is the cavity or the open space defined
by the surrounding wall, and such is the XALIL, 'flute', the
cylindrical [GALIL] hollow wind-pipe, and also the MXILAH [actually
MKILAH], 'tunnel', burrowed and included [GLULAH, KLULAH] in the
depth of the earth. XLL in the sense of 'profane' may mean 'devoid or
empty of merit'. Indeed, its opposite QD$, which is but a variant of
GD$, means 'packed solid with supreme value'. XALAL in the sense of
'cadaver', may mean 'rolled or bent over' or 'drained of life'.
Similarly 'MAXALAH', 'illness', may mean a lacuna or an ill inclusion.
In conclusion: MXOLAL of Isaiah 53:5 is certainly not 'pierced'.
For a more detailed discussion of these roots look up
_www.hebrewetymology.com_ (http://www.hebrewetymology.com) .
JW:
This reminds me of the KRH "controversy" in 22:17. KRH clearly has a
primary meaning of "dig" in the Jewish Bible and by usage it is always
shown as a Creative act. Yet some would argue that "pierced" is the
proper Translation even though the Hebrew words that do actually
mean "pierced" usually have a Destructive meaning. There seems to be
some Motivation outside of Translation which is looking for "pierced".
Why do you think that is Isaac?
Joseph Wallack
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Re: [b-hebrew] chalal - perforate/pierce?/KRH,
JoeWallack, 09/06/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] chalal - perforate/pierce?/KRH,
Shoshanna Walker, 09/06/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] chalal - perforate/pierce?/KRH,
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Re: [b-hebrew] chalal - perforate/pierce?/KRH,
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