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1. Moed 18- Call for Papers (????? ????)
2. Unicode/XML Westminster Leningrad Codex NOT viewable on Apple
Safari 3.0 BETA browser (Christopher V. Kimball)
3. Moed 17 - Call for Papers (Mo'ed - Annual for Jewish Studies)
4. FW: New Book from Gorgias Press (Katie Stott)
5. Re: definite article in Isaiah 7:14 (K Randolph)
6. Re: Ending -TIY (pporta AT oham.net)
7. Re: definite article in Isaiah 7:14 (Isaac Fried)
8. Re: Ending -TIY (Martin Shields)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:29:07 +0200
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Subject: [b-hebrew] Moed 18- Call for Papers
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Mo'ed - Annual for Jewish Studies



Mo'ed - Annual for Jewish Studies, is now accepting papers for Vol. 18, to 
appear in March-April 2008. Mo'ed is a refereed annual devoted to all 
branches and periods of Jewish Studies, and welcomes original contributions 
in these fields. Articles may be submitted for publication either in Hebrew 
or in English. Hebrew articles are to include an English abstract and English 
articles are to include a Hebrew abstract of 200-300 words. Articles are to 
be typed using a Word for Windows-compatible word processor and should be 
submitted in two hard copies accompanied by a diskette. Electronic 
transmission as an e-mail attachment is an acceptable alternative, but it is 
recommended to submit hard copies and diskette as well. Bibliographical 
references and other notes are to be typed as footnotes. For all other 
matters of style and usage ? spelling and punctuation, use of numbers, 
emphases, abbreviations, citation of texts and bibliographical references, 
contributors are referred to th
e Guidelines for Contributors appearing (in both Hebrew and English) in Mo'ed 
17 (2007), or to Tarbiz 51 (1982), pp. 167-169 (however, please note the 
exceptions to the Tarbiz format). The final date for submission of articles 
to Vol. 18 is 31 December 2006. Articles are to be submitted to:



Dr. Arie Don

or

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Editors

Mo'ed - Annual for Jewish Studies

Center for Jewish Culture

Beit Berl College

Beit Berl Post Office

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e-mail: moed AT beitberl.ac.il



website: www.beitberl.ac.il/moed



Following is a selection of the articles appearing in Mo'ed 17 (2007):



English Section 

Yoel Duman, "The Treatment of the Cain and Abel Story in Midrash Tanhuma" 



Hebrew Section

Yitzhak (Itzik) Peleg, ? I am the Lord Who Brought You out from Ur of the 
Chaldeans": Who Brought Abraham out and Whence? 

Itzhak Hamitovsky, "'The War of Torah': Image and Reality in the Beit 
ha-Midrash during the Mishnaic and Talmudic Period" 

Tziona GrossmarK, "'This May be Compared to an Athlete Who Was Wrestling with 
a Royal Prince': God and the Arena in Jewish

Rabbinic Literature" 

Ze'ev Levy, "Theodicy: Several Philosophical Aspects": 

Dalia Marx, "The Creation and Development of the Reform Liturgy in Israel" 

















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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:37:11 -0400
From: "Christopher V. Kimball" 
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Apple has recently released version 3.0 of its Safari browser BETA for 
OSX and Windows XP. It does NOT display the Unicode/XML Westminster 
Leningrad Codex on Windows XP, presumably because it continues to lack 
the required XSL transformation capability.

Chris Kimball
West Redding, CT


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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:16:45 +0200
From: "Mo'ed - Annual for Jewish Studies" 
Subject: [b-hebrew] Moed 17 - Call for Papers
To: , "History of the Ancient
Mediterranean" ,
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, "First Century Judaism Discussion Forum"

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Mo'ed - Annual for Jewish Studies, is now accepting papers for Vol. 18, to 
appear in March-April 2008. Mo'ed is a refereed annual devoted to all 
branches and periods of Jewish Studies, and welcomes original contributions 
in these fields. Articles may be submitted for publication either in Hebrew 
or in English. Hebrew articles are to include an English abstract and English 
articles are to include a Hebrew abstract of 200-300 words. Articles are to 
be typed using a Word for Windows-compatible word processor and should be 
submitted in two hard copies accompanied by a diskette. Electronic 
transmission as an e-mail attachment is an acceptable alternative, but it is 
recommended to submit hard copies and diskette as well. Bibliographical 
references and other notes are to be typed as footnotes. For all other 
matters of style and usage ? spelling and punctuation, use of numbers, 
emphases, abbreviations, citation of texts and bibliographical references, 
contributors are referred to th
e Guidelines for Contributors appearing (in both Hebrew and English) in Mo'ed 
17 (2007), or to Tarbiz 51 (1982), pp. 167-169 (however, please note the 
exceptions to the Tarbiz format). The final date for submission of articles 
to Vol. 16 is 30 September 2006. Articles are to be submitted to:



Dr. Arie Don

or

Dr, Jonathan D. Safren

Editors

Mo'ed - Annual for Jewish Studies

Center for Jewish Culture

Beit Berl College

Beit Berl Post Office

44905 Israel

e-mail: moed AT beitberl.ac.il



website: www.beitberl.ac.il/moed



Following are a selection of the articles appearing in Mo'ed 17 (2007):



English Section 

Yoel Duman, "The Treatment of the Cain and Abel Story in Midrash Tanhuma" 



Hebrew Section

Yitzhak (Itzik) Peleg, ? I am the Lord Who Brought You out from Ur of the 
Chaldeans": Who Brought Abraham out and Whence? 

Itzhak Hamitovsky, "'The War of Torah': Image and Reality in the Beit 
ha-Midrash during the Mishnaic and Talmudic Period" 

Tziona GrossmarK, "'This May be Compared to an Athlete Who Was Wrestling with 
a Royal Prince': God and the Arena in Jewish

Rabbinic Literature" 

Ze'ev Levy, "Theodicy: Several Philosophical Aspects": 

Dalia Marx, "The Creation and Development of the Reform Liturgy in Israel" 

















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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:24:15 -0600
From: "Katie Stott" 
Subject: [b-hebrew] FW: New Book from Gorgias Press
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:36:51 -0700
From: "K Randolph" 
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] definite article in Isaiah 7:14
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Dear Isaac:

I don't know where you get your etymology for the meaning of (LM ???, but it
is not Biblical Hebrew.

Modern Israeli Hebrew? ??

As a verb it is used around 30 times ? about 2 times, every time it is used
to refer to something that is unknown.

Derivatives, such as (WLM ???? again refer to something that is unknown, in
this case a duration of time that is unknown at the time it is mentioned,
and that included eternity as one option. We had a drawn out discussion
of its duration a while back. Only in post-Biblical Hebrew does it
have a meaning referring to the totality of the compiled creation.

(LM ??? and (LMH ???? referring to people was of those whose
youth and social position precluded them from having been married, and sex
outside of marriage was a no-no, so they were "unknown" in contrast to
Genesis 4:1.

It's a bit of a stretch to compare (LM ??? with )LM ??? to be mute, though
one could possibly say that one is not likely to be loquacious about what
one doesn't know.

Karl W. Randolph.

On 6/10/07, Isaac Fried wrote:
>
> Kenneth,
>
> The situation in Isaiah 7:14 is crystal clear.
>
> 1. Since the Hebrew HA- is but a variant of the personal pronoun HU,
> HI, 'he, she', HA-ALMAH is surely in reference to a person on which
> the prophet and his listeners were in agreement as to her factual
> identity. Insofar as the prophet did not have you and me in mind at
> that time, he did not elaborate on the status of his ALMAH.
>
> 2. The fact that the prophet uses the bare form HARAH and not HA-
> HARAH is a clear indication that the ALMAH was not yet known by the
> people of Jerusalem to be pregnant. If she had any difficulties
> conceiving, or the nation was just awaiting the good tidings is lost
> on us by the habitual brevity of the biblical text.
>
> 3. Now to the etymology of the word ALMAH. It is from the root (LM,
> 'pile up, grow up, mature'. The presence of the letter L in the root
> indicates that it refers to an elevated material state. As a verb it
> means 'to cover up, to pile up upon, to wrap over', and hence by
> analogy 'to hide, to conceal'. The derived words (ELEM, and (ALMAH
> mean, to my understanding, correspondingly, a grown boy and a nubile
> girl. Likewise, (ALUMIM is 'the days of youth', as in Job 33:25. It
> is possible that HA-)ALMAH was in deferential use in the sense of Her
> Royal Highness.
> (OLAM is the totality of the compiled creation.
> The root )LM is a variant of the root (LM. Derived from this root are
> the words )ALUMAH, 'a pile or bundle of cut wheat, a sheaf' [in
> present day spoken Hebrew )ALUMAH is also 'beam, shaft', as in )ALUM-
> AT OR. 'a beam of light'], )ULAM, 'a large hall' and )ILEM, 'mute,
> tight, shut, coiled up, seized, overwhelmed, convulsed, inert, faint,
> unconscious'.
>
> Isaac Fried, Boston University

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:51:41 +0200
From: 

Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ending -TIY
To: "K Randolph" , "b-hebrew"

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Dear listers,

Does any of you know if in biblical Hebrew a word ending -TIY can/may be 
something different from a 1st person singular of the past tense?

Pere Porta 



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:43:05 -0400
From: Isaac Fried 
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] definite article in Isaiah 7:14
To: K Randolph 
Cc: b-hebrew 
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Karl,

I don't think that there is in the biblical sphere of thinking such a 
thing as 'unknown' in the general sense. The concept is a modern 
epistemological invention. English does not even have a word for it 
apart from the naive compound 'un-known'. A person may be ignorant (i- 
know-rant) of certain facts, but otherwise a thing is hidden or 
covered. Most instances of the verbal derivatives of (LM, ???, in 
the Hebrew bible is clearly in the sense of 'to cover', especially 
the eyes and the ears. The opposite of (LM is GLH, ???, 'bring up, 
un-cover, dis-cover'.
Job 6:16: (ALEYMO YIT(ALEM $ELEG, ???????? 
??????????-??????, is certainly "upon them snow will 
pile up", with a play on the words (ALEYMO and YIT(ALEM, connected by 
the common element AL, 'on'. Any other interpretation using 'hide' 
is, in my opinion, artificial. Indeed, according to NIV it is 
"swollen with melting snow".
In my opinion the word (OLAM, ????, 'universe', is what swells up 
and up in space and time. You are right that it is mostly used in the 
sense of time going on and on, but occasionally it is used also for 
the ever extending space, as in Psalms 24:7. In any event, space and 
time are but one manifestation, and in this sense (OLAM means 
unending human existence and experience. It has nothing to do with 
knowledge, yet I can understand your interpretation of (AD (OLAM as 
meaning something like "until time is lost in the mists of eternity 
and we do not know anything anymore" but it is too poetical to my 
practical taste.
I am sorry, but your explanation of (ELEM, ???, and (ALMAH, 
????, as being yet "unknown" to the opposite sex appears to me 
unnatural and not becoming of the graceful and sensible ancient 
Hebrews. In my opinion (ELEM and (ALMAH mean just 'grown up' as 
indicated by the presence of AL, 'up, on' in both names. This basic 
sense of (LM is also inherent in the roots: BLM, GLM, HLM, XLM, QLM, 
CLM, $LM, TLM.
There is an ex-biblical )ALAM, ???, (said to be "borrowed" from 
"Aramaic") in the sense of 'bully, brute, big-bodied, hulk', from 
which the now commonly used word ALIMUT = AL-HI-M-HU-AT, 'violence, 
strong-arm tactics', is derived.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jun 11, 2007, at 9:36 PM, K Randolph wrote:

> Dear Isaac:
>
> I don't know where you get your etymology for the meaning of (LM 
> ???, but it
> is not Biblical Hebrew.
>
> Modern Israeli Hebrew? ??
>
> As a verb it is used around 30 times ? about 2 times, every time it 
> is used
> to refer to something that is unknown.
>
> Derivatives, such as (WLM ???? again refer to something that is 
> unknown, in
> this case a duration of time that is unknown at the time it is 
> mentioned,
> and that included eternity as one option. We had a drawn out 
> discussion
> of its duration a while back. Only in post-Biblical Hebrew does it
> have a meaning referring to the totality of the compiled creation.
>
> (LM ??? and (LMH ???? referring to people was of those whose
> youth and social position precluded them from having been married, 
> and sex
> outside of marriage was a no-no, so they were "unknown" in contrast to
> Genesis 4:1.
>
> It's a bit of a stretch to compare (LM ??? with )LM ??? to be 
> mute, though
> one could possibly say that one is not likely to be loquacious 
> about what
> one doesn't know.
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> On 6/10/07, Isaac Fried wrote:
>>
>> Kenneth,
>>
>> The situation in Isaiah 7:14 is crystal clear.
>>
>> 1. Since the Hebrew HA- is but a variant of the personal pronoun HU,
>> HI, 'he, she', HA-ALMAH is surely in reference to a person on which
>> the prophet and his listeners were in agreement as to her factual
>> identity. Insofar as the prophet did not have you and me in mind at
>> that time, he did not elaborate on the status of his ALMAH.
>>
>> 2. The fact that the prophet uses the bare form HARAH and not HA-
>> HARAH is a clear indication that the ALMAH was not yet known by the
>> people of Jerusalem to be pregnant. If she had any difficulties
>> conceiving, or the nation was just awaiting the good tidings is lost
>> on us by the habitual brevity of the biblical text.
>>
>> 3. Now to the etymology of the word ALMAH. It is from the root (LM,
>> 'pile up, grow up, mature'. The presence of the letter L in the root
>> indicates that it refers to an elevated material state. As a verb it
>> means 'to cover up, to pile up upon, to wrap over', and hence by
>> analogy 'to hide, to conceal'. The derived words (ELEM, and (ALMAH
>> mean, to my understanding, correspondingly, a grown boy and a nubile
>> girl. Likewise, (ALUMIM is 'the days of youth', as in Job 33:25. It
>> is possible that HA-)ALMAH was in deferential use in the sense of Her
>> Royal Highness.
>> (OLAM is the totality of the compiled creation.
>> The root )LM is a variant of the root (LM. Derived from this root are
>> the words )ALUMAH, 'a pile or bundle of cut wheat, a sheaf' [in
>> present day spoken Hebrew )ALUMAH is also 'beam, shaft', as in )ALUM-
>> AT OR. 'a beam of light'], )ULAM, 'a large hall' and )ILEM, 'mute,

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John,

NG$ does not come in a Nifaal form but NGS does. For NGF it is:
NIGAFT = N-I-GAF-T (you, singular, female, past)
TINAGFIY = T-I-NAGF-IY (you, singular, female, future)
The A vowel is just a puff of air. The NI$MAR = NI-$MAR form contains  
the personal pronoun [or the pair of personal pronouns N-I for the  
subject and the object] NI [kind of ANI or AN-HI] for the person  
performing the act $MR upon itself. Thus, NI$MAR is 'he guarded  
himself'. Roots, such as NG$, NGS, NGF, that have the misfortune to  
start with the letter N lose one N, or one N gets to play at once the  
two roles of radical and pronoun. So, instead of *NINGAF it is NIGAF.  
To indicate a female actor Hebrew adds the personal pronoun AT  
[shortened to a mere T] to the end of the verb, to have NIGAFT. In an  
intended action, NI is replaced by TI [kind of ATI or AT-HI] to  
produce TINAGFIY = T-I-NAGF-IY, 'you will defeat yourself'---directly  
on indirectly. Notice that in the QAL form it is TI$MRIY = TI-$MR-IY  
and NI$MOR = NI-$M-O-R. I tend to think the inserted -O- is HO = HU  
for the object, the thing that we propose to guard.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jun 13, 2007, at 10:31 AM, Brak wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I think I might have found another typo in my grammar book.
> What would be the Imperfect Nif'al 2FS of
> NG#
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> -- 
>
> B"H
> John Steven
>
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> behave."
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