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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk AT concentric.net>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] comparative historical linguistics was Re: Nun-Tav-Vet root
  • Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:15:04 -0500

Shoshana,
I know that it is a frivolous question, and for a true believer may even appear to border on blaspheme. The way God communicates with man is off limits to any rational enquiry. Yet you know that as the Torah is lifted after the public reading the congregation rises and proclaims in unison:
וזאת התורה אשר שם משה לפני בני ישראל על פי אדוני ביד משה
where על פי may mean 'according to' or 'from the mouth of.'

This appears to negate the notion that Moshe lifted the tables skyward (as I have seen with my own eyes in the movies) and God put on them his writ with a hand of fire.
Isaac Fried

On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Shoshanna Walker wrote:

I don't understand the question. G-d "told" Moshe what to write. I
personally think it was via "automatic writing". Other people
claimed automatic writing (and Mozart claimed to write music that
way), from lesser spiritual beings, so Moshe got his from G-d.

Shoshanna



What do you mean by "given"?
Isaac Fried

On Nov 27, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Shoshanna Walker wrote:

We believe that the Torah was given without any vowels, or even word
separations.

Shoshanna



I know you asked Peter, but I just wanted to point out that Orthodox Jews
have always (or, in any case, for over a millenium), believed that
the Torah
was given to Moses.

I meant, the Torah with the Shin/Sin distinctions as we have them.

Yitzhak Sapir
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