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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] vowel length
- Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 07:53:22 -0800 (PST)
Yitzhak,
The classification of the Hatafim is of course strictly arbitrary. The
Heb. medieval poetric metrics follow closely the Arab. example, except
that in the latter there are no hatafim of course.
All this is outside the scope of this list, but you'll find more
details in
any introduction to medieval Heb. poetry.
Uri
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Yitzhak,
a really great description of complicated matters in a short way -
congratulations!
(I always teach the in the first weeks of my Biblical Hebrew beginners
class - and it works!!!)
Just one remark: I'd like better to say: The Massoretes were aware of
vowel lenghth - of course, for they were not deaf -, but they were not
so much interested in.
Reinhard
> No. The Massoretes were aware of vowel length. But vowel length,
> at least in most cases, was not phonemic. Vowel length was a product
> of the history of the Hebrew language, but due to the development of
> the Hebrew language, it so happened that given a particular syllable
> and stress structure, the vowel lengths of the various syllables in the
> word were fixed. That is, open and stress vowels were lengthened
> during this development and long unstressed vowels took on
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