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- From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard AT ont.com>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?
- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:01:03 -0500
Dear Moshe,
Vadim Cherny wrote:
dkr in Zech12:10 undoubtedly refers to thrusting with sword. Always tookJerusalem)
that for granted. The nations that cut him [Israel] (came against
will repent.see how you
I'm less familiar with the Christian issues, but I frankly don't
could read ca-ari in Ps22:17 as "pierced."phrase)] my
As a lion [they have encompassed (transposition from the earlier
hands and feet.HH: There are variant textual readings, and it is
those variants that people are reading as "pierced."
Harold, none of the variants can correctly translated as 'pierced.' The word in Hebrew and Greek means to dig (as in digging a hole).
HH: A nail would dig a hole in your hands and feet, but "pierced" is more idiomatic English. The Old Greek translation of the Tanakh has the verb ORUSSW here (LXX Ps. 21:17), which means dig. It also has it at Ps 40:6, of God digging, or opening, the ear in creating a human being. So while the literal translation would be dig, the concept in English might be rendered as pierced.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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[b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
schmuel, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, Moshe Shulman, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, K Randolph, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Vadim Cherny, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Harold Holmyard, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Moshe Shulman, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Harold Holmyard, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Moshe Shulman, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Peter Kirk, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, Moshe Shulman, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, Peter Kirk, 09/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Peter Kirk, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Harold Holmyard, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, Moshe Shulman, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, Harold Holmyard, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, Harold Holmyard, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, Harold Holmyard, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Moshe Shulman, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Harold Holmyard, 09/28/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Moshe Shulman, 09/28/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?, Vadim Cherny, 09/30/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22:16 - daqar as pierced ?,
Harold Holmyard, 09/28/2006
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