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  • From: Brak <Brak AT neo.rr.com>
  • To: JCR128 AT student.apu.ac.uk
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psalms and Sedarim
  • Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:36:04 -0500

I have completed the letter (constanant) count.

The text sedarim breaks clearly DO NOT separate the text into equal parts, not by verses, not by words, not by letters.
, and it is just as much all over the place as the other counts.
So the sedarim divisions have nothing to do with evenly dividing the text either via verses, words, nor letters.

Here is the result of the counts:

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01: Jos 001:001 - Jos 003:006 Verses: 48 Words: 823 Letters: 3174
02: Jos 003:007 - Jos 004:023 Verses: 34 Words: 569 Letters: 2273
03: Jos 004:024 - Jos 006:026 Verses: 42 Words: 777 Letters: 3067
04: Jos 006:027 - Jos 007:026 Verses: 27 Words: 503 Letters: 1955
05: Jos 008:001 - Jos 008:032 Verses: 32 Words: 547 Letters: 2107
06: Jos 008:033 - Jos 010:007 Verses: 37 Words: 629 Letters: 2573
07: Jos 010:008 - Jos 010:041 Verses: 34 Words: 600 Letters: 2340
08: Jos 010:042 - Jos 012:024 Verses: 49 Words: 681 Letters: 2583
09: Jos 013:001 - Jos 014:014 Verses: 47 Words: 705 Letters: 2768
10: Jos 014:015 - Jos 017:003 Verses: 77 Words: 763 Letters: 3140
11: Jos 017:004 - Jos 018:027 Verses: 42 Words: 661 Letters: 2632
12: Jos 018:028 - Jos 019:050 Verses: 51 Words: 478 Letters: 2044
13: Jos 019:051 - Jos 021:040 Verses: 50 Words: 713 Letters: 2773
14: Jos 021:041 - Jos 022:033 Verses: 38 Words: 745 Letters: 2918
15: Jos 022:034 - Jos 024:033 Verses: 50 Words: 889 Letters: 3608
01: Jud 001:001 - Jud 002:006 Verses: 42 Words: 618 Letters: 2425
02: Jud 002:007 - Jud 003:030 Verses: 47 Words: 738 Letters: 2935
03: Jud 003:031 - Jud 005:030 Verses: 55 Words: 792 Letters: 3099
04: Jud 005:031 - Jud 006:039 Verses: 40 Words: 678 Letters: 2611
05: Jud 006:040 - Jud 008:002 Verses: 28 Words: 552 Letters: 2156
06: Jud 008:003 - Jud 009:006 Verses: 39 Words: 612 Letters: 2383
07: Jud 009:007 - Jud 009:057 Verses: 51 Words: 761 Letters: 2964
08: Jud 010:001 - Jud 011:031 Verses: 49 Words: 764 Letters: 3022
09: Jud 011:032 - Jud 013:023 Verses: 47 Words: 757 Letters: 2956
10: Jud 013:024 - Jud 016:002 Verses: 44 Words: 707 Letters: 2860
11: Jud 016:003 - Jud 018:005 Verses: 47 Words: 824 Letters: 3306
12: Jud 018:006 - Jud 019:019 Verses: 45 Words: 775 Letters: 2985
13: Jud 019:020 - Jud 020:026 Verses: 37 Words: 601 Letters: 2406
14: Jud 020:027 - Jud 021:025 Verses: 47 Words: 727 Letters: 2935
01: 1Sa 001:001 - 1Sa 002:009 Verses: 37 Words: 517 Letters: 1992
02: 1Sa 002:010 - 1Sa 003:019 Verses: 46 Words: 740 Letters: 2761
03: 1Sa 003:020 - 1Sa 006:013 Verses: 49 Words: 855 Letters: 3482
04: 1Sa 006:014 - 1Sa 009:001 Verses: 48 Words: 738 Letters: 3032
05: 1Sa 009:002 - 1Sa 010:023 Verses: 49 Words: 856 Letters: 3351
06: 1Sa 010:024 - 1Sa 012:021 Verses: 40 Words: 697 Letters: 2718
07: 1Sa 012:022 - 1Sa 014:022 Verses: 49 Words: 768 Letters: 3060
08: 1Sa 014:023 - 1Sa 015:016 Verses: 46 Words: 749 Letters: 2845
09: 1Sa 015:017 - 1Sa 016:017 Verses: 36 Words: 549 Letters: 2118
10: 1Sa 016:018 - 1Sa 017:036 Verses: 42 Words: 639 Letters: 2548
11: 1Sa 017:037 - 1Sa 018:013 Verses: 35 Words: 548 Letters: 2194
12: 1Sa 018:014 - 1Sa 020:004 Verses: 45 Words: 747 Letters: 2879
13: 1Sa 020:005 - 1Sa 020:041 Verses: 37 Words: 599 Letters: 2162
14: 1Sa 020:042 - 1Sa 022:003 Verses: 20 Words: 365 Letters: 1338
15: 1Sa 022:004 - 1Sa 024:019 Verses: 67 Words: 1127 Letters: 4295
16: 1Sa 024:020 - 1Sa 025:032 Verses: 36 Words: 604 Letters: 2324
17: 1Sa 025:033 - 1Sa 026:024 Verses: 36 Words: 665 Letters: 2504
18: 1Sa 026:025 - 1Sa 028:023 Verses: 36 Words: 642 Letters: 2447
19: 1Sa 028:024 - 1Sa 030:024 Verses: 37 Words: 662 Letters: 2545
20: 1Sa 030:025 - 2Sa 002:006 Verses: 53 Words: 740 Letters: 2939
21: 2Sa 002:007 - 2Sa 003:020 Verses: 46 Words: 745 Letters: 2887
22: 2Sa 003:021 - 2Sa 005:009 Verses: 40 Words: 729 Letters: 2773
23: 2Sa 005:010 - 2Sa 007:015 Verses: 54 Words: 806 Letters: 3118
24: 2Sa 007:016 - 2Sa 010:011 Verses: 56 Words: 908 Letters: 3493
25: 2Sa 010:012 - 2Sa 012:012 Verses: 47 Words: 780 Letters: 2972
26: 2Sa 012:013 - 2Sa 013:024 Verses: 43 Words: 715 Letters: 2728
27: 2Sa 013:025 - 2Sa 014:032 Verses: 47 Words: 830 Letters: 3100
28: 2Sa 014:033 - 2Sa 015:036 Verses: 37 Words: 620 Letters: 2399
29: 2Sa 015:037 - 2Sa 017:019 Verses: 43 Words: 750 Letters: 2846
30: 2Sa 017:020 - 2Sa 018:026 Verses: 36 Words: 664 Letters: 2506
31: 2Sa 018:027 - 2Sa 019:039 Verses: 45 Words: 813 Letters: 3064
32: 2Sa 019:040 - 2Sa 021:006 Verses: 37 Words: 679 Letters: 2605
33: 2Sa 021:007 - 2Sa 022:050 Verses: 66 Words: 691 Letters: 2742
34: 2Sa 022:051 - 2Sa 024:025 Verses: 65 Words: 927 Letters: 3530
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Now this list doesn't take into account k/q versions, but includes both. If there is a request I can, LORD willing, refine the count to display the letter count for both k and q separately. But considering that in the current count which has both the k and q included that we are only talking about a handful of letters as a deviation. And when you look at the size gaps in the above report where you have a deviation of 700 letters that the few extra letters caused by the q/k would be of insignificance. In once place you have a variance of almost 3000!

But if it is deem important by the forum to list the letter count with q and the letter count with k then let me know, and I'll try to do it, LORD willing, sometime this week.

But I can clearly say that the verse count, word count, and letter count theories are busted. (I feel like the Mythbusters when I just said that).

So once again I pose what seems to be the perpetual question(s):
What is the rhyme and reason behind the placement of these break points?
What is the method to this apparent madness?

B"H
Brak


JAMES CHRISTIAN READ wrote:

I suspect that in the olden days word numbers and verse
numbers didn't have so much importance as number of
consonants.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brak <Brak AT neo.rr.com>
To: JCR128 AT student.apu.ac.uk
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:56:00 -0500
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psalms and Sedarim

I was planning on it, but haven't yet. But LORD willing I'll get a chance to do so sometime this week.

B"H
Brak


JAMES CHRISTIAN READ wrote:


Have you tried doing a similar count with number of consonants?

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