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  • From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
  • To: Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Deuteronomy 32:11 object?
  • Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:14:47 -0500


----- Original Message -----
From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
>
> On 11/26/05, Karl Randolph wrote:
> > B-Hebrew haburim:
> >
> > What is/are the object(s) of Deuteronomy 32:11c & d? Is it
> > QN from 11a or GZL from 11b? If QN from 11a, is that from
> > QNN to nest or QNH to get possession of, hence prey?
>
> There is no QN in 11a.

Puh-leeze! Don't be such a nitpicker!

> ... There is QNW. Any attempt to redistribute
> the letters from QNW / (L to QN / W(L must recognize that such an
> attempt is being made.
>
There's no such attempt. QN is the noun apart from
its third person masculine possessive pronoun suffix.

> The question is not only what object, but what subject. It would
> seem to me that in 11c-d (as you label them) we are back to
> discussing God and his nation, while 11a-b is actually an imagery
> for the last part of the previous verse that describes how God
> has created and watched over his people, just like an eagle
> watches over his nest. Given the parallelism, there is no reason
> to suspect that QNW is anything but the root QNN. If the root
> was indeed QNH we would expect that the H (or Y) would not drop
> out, and in any case then we would have QNHW -- his owner/
> creator -- which is not how you would derive "prey." In any case,
> the imagery -- of an eagle arriving and waking up its nest is both
> the perfect parallel to 11b, where it is described as hovering above
> the birds in the nest, and also perfectly in accord with both the
> consonantal spelling (no need to explain loss of H, shift of W to
> next verse), and vocalization (dagesh in N).
>
> Yitzhak Sapir

Better make a translation of all three verses,
as it appears that you understand several of
the words differently than I. If so, that
explains why I have trouble following your
argument in this message.

There are examples of lamed-he verbs with
nouns from the same root lacking any
indication of the he, such as CW command
from the same root as CWH to command.

Karl W. Randolph.


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