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- From: "George Athas" <gathas AT hotkey.net.au>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] BDAG
- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:49:51 +1100
The Greek lexicon in question has in past editions been known as BAGD
(Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich-Danker). However, the latest edition is definitely
known as BDAG (Bauer-Danker-Arndt-Gingrich), affectionately pronounced
as "Be Dag". Evidently Danker has moved up in the world.
Best regards,
GEORGE ATHAS
(Sydney, Australia)
> -----Original Message-----
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[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> Of Dave Washburn
> Sent: 20 November 2005 4:22 am
> To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] KY interrogative? was Deuteronomy 20:19 )DM
>
> Interesting. I've never seen it referred to with that sequence
before. The
> second edition, which I still use, is actually BAG, because Danker
didn't
> come in until the third edition. Oh well...
>
> On Saturday 19 November 2005 06:03, kgraham0938 AT comcast.net wrote:
> > @ Dave:
> >
> > My lexicon has BDAG on the side of it, it's the third edition. I
think the
> > 2nd edition is called BAGD and the third edition is called BDAG.
> >
> > --
> > Kelton Graham
> > KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > It's actually usually abbreviated BAGD, for
Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich-Danker.
> > > Bauer was the original compiler, Arndt and Gingrich did a major
revision,
> > > and Danker did another one. It's easier to type than the actual
title.
> > >
> > > On Friday 18 November 2005 20:10, kgraham0938 AT comcast.net wrote:
> > > > @Karl:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What's a BDAG?
> > > >
> > > > Response: A Greek Lexicon of The New Testament and Other
Christian
> > > > Literature.
> > > >
> > > > It is one of the best Greek lexicons out right now just as HALOT
is
> > > > probably the best Hebrew lexicon out right now.
> > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Karl:I got the right verse, I also read to make sure the
> > > > contextual verses around it as well.
> > > >
> > > > I read the KY here as introducing a subordinate clause
> > > > that is a statement indicating why God will bless David.
> > > > Saul is stating a principle, hence his use of the third
> > > > person here, then returns to David in the second person.
> > > > If H.A.L.O.T. disagrees with me here, then I think that
> > > > H.A.L.O.T. is wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Response: Tell you what, translate the verse for me without
making it a
> > > > rhetorical question and see if it makes sense. If you make it a
> > > > rhetorical question, then one must ask why did you make it a
question,
> > > > if not, then I'd like to see you make sense out of it. But note
the NIV
> > > > and NASB, and NET all have it as rhetorical question. And I did
supply
> > > > two sources both of which are realible to explain where it came
from,
> > > > so I'd like to see your thinking on this one.
> > > >
> > > > Karl:Thus I find the claim that KY can introduce an
interrogative
> > > > without the presence of an interrogative prefixed H- has
> > > > no basis other than two disputed verses (that these are
> > > > in fact questions), therefore the whole concept itself is
> > > > questionable.
> > > >
> > > > Response: Well, I've tried to give you sources and verses to go
along
> > > > with it, that is about the extent of my resources on this verse.
So if
> > > > you don't think they are questions the only thing I would ask is
for an
> > > > alternate translation then we can probably call it quits unless
someone
> > > > else has any suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kelton Graham
> > > > KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net
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[b-hebrew] BDAG,
George Athas, 11/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] BDAG, Dave Washburn, 11/21/2005
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