Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Dave Washburn <dwashbur AT nyx.net>]

Maybe they moved him up so it could be pronounced that way?  "Be Dag" 
probably 
carries fewer potential negative connotations than "bagged" :-)

On Sunday 20 November 2005 21:49, George Athas wrote:
> The Greek lexicon in question has in past editions been known as BAGD
> (Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich-Danker). However, the latest edition is definitely
> known as BDAG (Bauer-Danker-Arndt-Gingrich), affectionately pronounced
> as "Be Dag". Evidently Danker has moved up in the world.
>
>
> Best regards,
> GEORGE ATHAS
> (Sydney, Australia)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
>
> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
>
> > Of Dave Washburn
> > Sent: 20 November 2005 4:22 am
> > To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] KY interrogative? was Deuteronomy 20:19 )DM
> >
> > Interesting.  I've never seen it referred to with that sequence
>
> before.  The
>
> > second edition, which I still use, is actually BAG, because Danker
>
> didn't
>
> > come in until the third edition.  Oh well...
> >
> > On Saturday 19 November 2005 06:03, kgraham0938 AT comcast.net wrote:
> > > @ Dave:
> > >
> > > My lexicon has BDAG on the side of it, it's the third edition.  I
>
> think the
>
> > > 2nd edition is called BAGD and the third edition is called BDAG.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kelton Graham
> > > KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > >
> > > > It's actually usually abbreviated BAGD, for
>
> Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich-Danker.
>
> > > > Bauer was the original compiler, Arndt and Gingrich did a major
>
> revision,
>
> > > > and Danker did another one. It's easier to type than the actual
>
> title.
>
> > > > On Friday 18 November 2005 20:10, kgraham0938 AT comcast.net wrote:
> > > > > @Karl:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What's a BDAG?
> > > > >
> > > > > Response: A Greek Lexicon of The New Testament and Other
>
> Christian
>
> > > > > Literature.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is one of the best Greek lexicons out right now just as HALOT
>
> is
>
> > > > > probably the best Hebrew lexicon out right now.
> > > > >
> > > > > > ----------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Karl:I got the right verse, I also read to make sure the
> > > > > contextual verses around it as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > I read the KY here as introducing a subordinate clause
> > > > > that is a statement indicating why God will bless David.
> > > > > Saul is stating a principle, hence his use of the third
> > > > > person here, then returns to David in the second person.
> > > > > If H.A.L.O.T. disagrees with me here, then I think that
> > > > > H.A.L.O.T. is wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Response: Tell you what, translate the verse for me without
>
> making it a
>
> > > > > rhetorical question and see if it makes sense. If you make it a
> > > > > rhetorical question, then one must ask why did you make it a
>
> question,
>
> > > > > if not, then I'd like to see you make sense out of it. But note
>
> the NIV
>
> > > > > and NASB, and NET all have it as rhetorical question. And I did
>
> supply
>
> > > > > two sources both of which are realible to explain where it came
>
> from,
>
> > > > > so I'd like to see your thinking on this one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Karl:Thus I find the claim that KY can introduce an
>
> interrogative
>
> > > > > without the presence of an interrogative prefixed H- has
> > > > > no basis other than two disputed verses (that these are
> > > > > in fact questions), therefore the whole concept itself is
> > > > > questionable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Response: Well, I've tried to give you sources and verses to go
>
> along
>
> > > > > with it, that is about the extent of my resources on this verse.
>
> So if
>
> > > > > you don't think they are questions the only thing I would ask is
>
> for an
>
> > > > > alternate translation then we can probably call it quits unless
>
> someone
>
> > > > > else has any suggestions.
> > > > >
> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Kelton Graham
> > > > > KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net
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Dave Washburn
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"Maybe I'll trade it for a new hat."