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- From: David P Donnelly <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] Masoretic vocalization of the name.
- Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:21:46 -0400
Kelton Graham asked:
>>>
Anyone ever heard of this guy, Gertoux?
>>>
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/264290/Gerardeoa.JPG
At the link above is some information from Gerard Gertoux's book
which indicates that he knew that both the Leningrad Codex and the Aleppo
codex
had pointed YHWH with the vowels e,o,a
in some cases.
Gerard Gertoux has stated that he wrote his book
with the intention of proving that "Yehowah" is more likely to be God's
name
than "Yahweh" is.
Dave Donnelly
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On Wed Sep 14 22:52:33 EDT 2005 Kelton Graham wrote:
>>>
Has anyone ever heard of these?
Out of curiosity, I came across this one day.
Anyone ever heard of this guy, Gertoux?
"The word Yahowah has never been used in any Bibles.
The (fanciful) grammatical pattern which involves a change a to e has
never existed.
In actual fact, before 1100 CE , the Tetragram has been pointed with only
the two vowels e, a
of the Aramaic word Shema which means "The Name".
The vowel o appeared, after 1100 CE , owing to the influence of the
reading of the word Adonay."
http://gertoux.online.fr/divinename/faq/A05.htm
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On 15/09/2005 11:53, Yigal Levin wrote:
>The Aleppo Codex, if I remember correctly, does have the holam over the he.
>So the Leningrad's spelling the Tetragrammaton without it, picked up by BHS,
>seems to be unique.
>
>
>
You do not remember correctly. Let me repost here a passage from
Gertoux's book posted here by Alexander Oldernes on 18th July this year:
> The situation is identical for other codices. The most frequent error is
> the transformation e, a into e, o, a, thus the changing of the form YeHWaH
> into YeHoWaH, which one finds in the Aleppo codex (Ezk 3:13; etc.) and in
> the Or4445 codex (Ex 16:7; 40:29; etc.) These errors are very old and can
> be observed on reproductions of biblical fragments (P. Kahle - Masoreten
> des Westens Stuttgart 1927 Ed. V.V.W. Kohlhammer p. 17/1 sheet 930 p.19/3
> sheet 946 p.24/8 sheet 1017) dated between 700 and 900. ...
>
>
>
Whatever we might think of the characterisation as "errors", this makes
it very clear that the regular pointing in the Aleppo codex is
sheva-qamats, but that sheva-holam-qamats is found occasionally e.g. at
Ezekiel 3:13.
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