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  • From: "Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] HYH Paradigm. Help please?
  • Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 22:38:37 +0100


I am trying to reconstruct the HYH paradigm (vowels and all).

1) I want to start by getting all the attested parts
2) And then use linguistics to fill in the missing bits

all help much appreciated.

If you know of an attested form could you add it to my list below and provide
a reference, please?

waw.hateph-patakh.yodh.he.hireq.yodh Gen1:16
aleph.segol.he.yodh.segol.he Exo3:14


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Sorry, I thought you were Vadim.


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James,


> Thank you!
> You have just contradicted your entire argument.

It would be helpful if you elaborated a little on where
the contradiction lies.

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I have two books, "The Discovery of Genesis" by C.H. Kang
and Ethel R. Nelson, and "Genesis and the Mystery Confucius
Couldn't Solve" by Ethel R. Nelson and Richard E. Broadberry.
Both published by Concordia Publishing House.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>

>
>
> Do you have any resources I can refer to about the Chinese
> characters you mentioned?
> I would really like to be able to study them in depth.
>
> I don't think that the Japanese came from the lost tribes of
> Isreal. Legend says they
> came from a Chinese nautical mission where the group were sent out
> to find a paradise
> island the Chinese Emporer had heard about. They were not to come
> back unsuccessful
> under pain of death.
>
> When I mentioned the similarities with Semitic roots I was more
> thinking of a family
> which migrated from the ANE to China and then a group that settles in Japan.
> That the Japanese and the Chinese are related is undoubted.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org on behalf of Karl Randolph
>
> Don't take too much importance on the shape of Chinese
> characters. The modern square characters resemble the
> original forms about as much as the modern square Hebrew
> letters resemble the forms found on the Gezar Calendar.
> However, in both cases, we have intermediate forms that
> show us how they changed.
>
> Having said that, even in modern characters, the character
> for "create" has a stroke meaning life or living, attached
> to the form meaning dirt, over a mouth (shorthand for
> person) enclosed in walking, translation: living dirt is
> a walking (adult) person. The character for "ship" is an
> eight person vessel (Noah's ark had eight persons). The
> character for "devil" is a living thing in the cultivated
> garden moving around secretly. In fact, much of the first
> eleven chapters of Genesis can be found in the stories told
> by how the characters are constructed. These characters all
> predate Christian missionaries. If one looks at the earlier
> character forms, more parallels to Genesis can be
> recognized.
>
> As for the Japanese, I have seen indications from other
> sources saying that the Japanese connection to the Middle
> East was from about the Roman period, not the "lost tribes".
> Jews that got to Japan could have been from either of the
> two major Jewish revolts, either as Roman slaves or
> refugees. There are Chinese with family traditions claiming
> Jewish ancestry from about the Roman period and later.
>
> Karl W. Randolph.

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