Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>]

Peter:

This is weird. I just checked the source code in the B-Hebrew archives for my 
original message that started this thread, and found that somewhere the 
coding was changed. I wrote in Hebrew, when it went through your mail program 
and back to me it was still correctly coded, as I still saw Hebrew. However, 
in the b-hebrew archive, it is coded as follows:

YXD יחד

(if it doesn’t show up correctly, the string is an ampersand followed by amp 
with a semicolon, then a hash with four numbers and semicolon, three times 
all as one string. Or to break it out, 
& amp ; # 1497 ; & amp ; # 1495 ; & amp ; # 1491 ; )

The addition of amp; after each & breaks it out from being a coding for a 
letter to a text string. Does anyone have any idea where it came from? How 
can we prevent it in the future? When you replied to me directly, it was not 
there so the letters appeared correctly and when you sent me your example 
they were coded correctly.

Also, in the B-Hebrew archives, in the source document, in your response 
testing my browser, your Windows-1255 encoding shows four instances of 
ampersand, hash, four numbers and a semicolon. But the character entities in 
your letter came to ampersand, "amp", semicolon, hash, four numbers and 
semicolon, just like in my original letter. That extra amp and semicolon did 
not come up when you mailed me directly, but shows up in the B-Hebrew 
archives.

Weird. Any geek out there who has any idea how this was changed?

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org>

> 
> On 06/07/2005 19:28, Karl Randolph wrote:
> 
> > Peter:
> >
> > Camino is a Carbonized for  Macintosh version of Mozilla.
> >
> >
> 
> Indeed. Are you using the latest version, 0.8.4? But the problem is 
> almost certainly with your webmail program. Unfortunately many 
> webmail programs are full of bugs, which is a good reason for using 
> POP mail and a proper mail program - although webmail has big 
> advantages for people who travel without computers.
> 
> > When you wrote the two examples below, they both show Hebrew 
> > letters in my browser, only the breakout version does not.
> >
> >
> 
> The problem then is with your webmail program.
> 
> > Could there be a problem in the archive software, that it does 
> > not always display Hebrew and Unicode? It does not  display 
> > Hebrew when I look at the archive.
> >
> >
> 
> Hebrew shows up correctly in the archives when it is correctly 
> encoded in the original message, as you can confirm by viewing the 
> archives with Camino. But it doesn't show Hebrew properly when that 
> Hebrew is not properly encoded, as in your past postings. And in 
> some of your recent postings you have the same problem with smart 
> quotes - look in the archives at your own posting on Aramaic in 
> Babylonia starting "To get the peripheral subject out of the way 
> first". (And there is also a word wrap problem, which may also be 
> something to do with your webmail program.)
> 
> Interestingly, Karl, you were able to send Hebrew correctly encoded 
> this time, by using Hebrew (Windows-1255) encoding, which your 
> webmail system probably chose because you were replying to my 
> message in that same encoding.
> 
> -- Peter Kirk
> peter AT qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/

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