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  • From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
  • To: Steve Miller <smille10 AT sbcglobal.net>
  • Cc: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Zechariah 12:1-2
  • Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:43:21 +0100

On 13/06/2005 23:38, Steve Miller wrote:

On 13/06/2005 22:06, Steve Miller wrote:


Zechariah chapters 12-14 are "the burden of the word of Jehovah

concerning

Israel" (12:1). Putting 12:1-2 together could it also be rendered "the
burden of the word of Jehovah concerning Israel ... and also concerning
Judah"?

...

If the 2nd עַל־ is translated "concerning" like the 1st, then it is the
burden of the word of Jehovah which is on Judah, rather than the siege.




From: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org>

The subject of the second part of verse 2 is an interesting question. It
is not "they" as KJV, for it is singular. It is not YHWH for he is in
the first person. I think it must be the "cup of bewilderment". But it
cannot possibly be the burden, as this is far too remote. I think this
must be interpreted in the sense that whatever is against Jerusalem is
also against Judah, so meaning something like "this cup will also be
against Judah, a siege against Jerusalem".



Thanks Peter. But, the cup of bewilderment is what Jehovah will put on all
the nations that come against Jerusalem. It is not the portion of Jerusalem
or of Judah.
-Steve Miller


Indeed, my mistake as I was rushing this. I think in fact the subject of the clause must be impersonal, so meaning more like "Also against Judah will be the state of siege against Jerusalem", in other words not only Jerusalem but also Judah will suffer. NIV has "Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem", which gets my point.

--
Peter Kirk
peter AT qaya.org (personal)
peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
http://www.qaya.org/



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