Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>]

  Jack Kilmon wrote, in part:
 
Yahwism was not a monolithic belief.  It is common in many belief systems 
that some sectors maintain a more primitive and ancient form. 
 
 correct observation  - UH
 
  The names EL (also Ba'al) and YHWH 
may have been merged as an hypocoristicon. The Qal  of hwh taken from a 
TITLE phrase as a hypocoristicon of EL, ala Albright and Cross?  A title 
like "El causes something to come into
being". 
 
  They meant the Hiphil, based on the MT vowelling. Another possibility is to 
 conjugate it in the Qal, - so De Moor -- and consider it a hypocoristicon of 
an original personal name such as Yhweh El , meaning  " El  is",   "El is 
established"  similar to the much later Y'hoyakhin. The biblical name Yishai 
, David's father, had possibly a similar derivation. And corresponding names 
of this nature can be found among Israel's neighbors.    -UH
 
  De Moor's suggestion is that such was indeeed a personal name of an ancient 
Hebrew anscestor who was eventually deified; the first part of the name 
dropped, and the deified  ancestor's spirit eventually became known to the 
Israelites as Yahweh with his unique attributes.
  This one sentence summary  can not be a substitute to De Moor's serious, 
annotated and reasoned discourse in  his book The Rise of Yahwism.   -- UH
 
 The use of HWH, therefore appears to be WAY down on the trunk of 
the NWSem tree where it became a loan word from Aramaic to early Hebrew.
 
The earliest attested occurrence of the verb in Aramaic according to KAI was 
in the 9th century, if memory serves. Do you know of an earlier one, Jack?   
--UH

.  
The Yahweh of the Bronze Age Canaanites and the Yahweh of the Rabbis may have 
had a common ascendancy but were no longer the same.
 
Absolutely -- UH
 
Uri


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Dakma daEBadton l'chad min hoLEYN AHi zeOreh ly haw EBadton

Jack Kilmon
San Marcos, Tx
jkilmon at historian



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I suggest having a read of:

de Regt, L.J. _Participants in Old Testament Texts and the Translator: 
Reference Devices and their Rhetorical Impact_. Studia Semitica Neerlandica 
39. Assen: Van Gorcum, 1999. Particuarly have a look at section 3 "Special 
Patterns" of which 3.1 is entitled "Overspecification".

Hope it helps. If you can't get a copy, I can pull out some references if I 
get time (busy at the moment!)

Regards,

David Kummerow.


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>Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 09:27:06 -0800
>From: "C. Stirling Bartholomew" <jacksonpollock AT earthlink.net>
>Subject: [b-hebrew] Participant Reference Job 39:9-10
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>In the MT of Job 39:9-10 we see a violation of the normal pattern of 
>reduced
>encoding for a participant that has been recently introduced with a *full
>noun phrase. The repetition of rym in verse 10 is found in the Vulgate but
>not in the LXX(OG).  Most English translations reduce the encoding to a
>pronoun in verse 10 either for stylistic reasons or based on an emended 
>text
>which omits the second occurrence of rym.
>
>Job 39:9 hy)bh ryM (bdK )M-ylyN (l-)bwsK
>Job 39:10 htq$#r-ryM btlM (btw )M-y&#dd (mqyM )xryK
>
>My question:
>
>Can we find other occurrences of this pattern, where an active participant,
>the current center of attention is referenced twice in close succession 
>with
>full noun phrase? In other words, does this text really need to be emended?
>
>greetings,
>Clay Bartholomew
>
>* "full noun phrase" is a term used in discussions of participant reference
>which includes anarthrous nouns.
>