Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>]

      Yes, Karl, most students of the subject would agree with you about what 
you call 'the third theory', and in  part they would also accept  'the 
fourth".
      It is impossible here to go into detail, but it is important to keep in 
mind that the MT, despite its relative lateness still maintains many features 
of the North West Canaanite branch which BH represented. And, apart from the 
pronounciation changes that occurred over the generations, those features 
were preserved. My point is that the pronounciation of the Masoretes was not 
an arbitrary caprice.
 
   Uri

Karl Randolph <kwrandolph AT email.com> wrote:


"......A third theory is that the Masoretes invented the points to record how 
Hebrew was spoken at their time. They do not represent the pronunciation of 
Biblical Hebrew, rather they reflect the pronunciation tradition 500 - 1000 
years after Hebrew ceased to be spoken as a primary language (learned at 
mother's knee).

A fourth theory is that the pointings reflect Biblical pronunciation. But 
even here there are some variations, as there were no hard and fast spelling 
rules during Biblical times.

I think those are all the theories (I expect to be strongly corrected if I 
left out anyone's theory). From these, none will have a good set of rules 
exactly how to point words in each context.

I personally ascribe to the third theory. ...."

Karl W. Randolph.

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By the way, the rabbis had the same problem, and calculated that there were
only 210 years from Jacob's descent to Egypt until the exodus. There
solution was the well-known midrash that God had originally intended that
the Israelites spend 430 years in Egypt, but since they cried to him so
feverently He gave them "time off" and recalculated the 430 years from
Abraham's first visit in Egypt.

Yigal

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Subject: [b-hebrew] Genealogy of David


> Hi all
>
> In Ruth 4:20-22 we find that Boaz' father was Salmon, and Boaz' grandson
was
> Jesse (David's father).  In Mathew 1:5 we learn that Salmon's wife was
> Rahab.
> This means that this part of the chain begins before the period of the
> judges. Too few links for more than 300 years.
> Of course, the Hebrew word for "father" also means "grandfather",
> "great-grandfather", and so on, and one can assume that some names in the
> genealogy are not mentioned for some reason.
> But is there any indication of where should those lacking links be? I
mean,
> is there a way (or at least a theory) to know if Rahab was really Boaz'
> mother, or if Ruth was really David great-grandmother? Is there a way to
set
> the story by the beginning of the period of the judges or by the end?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sergio
>
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