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  • From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
  • To: Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Alleged meaning of ecclesia in OT
  • Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:17:26 -0500

Harold:

Checking the Hebrew, the word ekklesia is used to translate QHL in Hebrew.
One time it is used for LHQT and a couple of times it was used to translate
the idea of assamblage where neither the specific term QHL nor a synonym was
used.

I noticed that while "ekklesia" in Greek is used to translate QHL, it is
never used for MW(D. Which word(s) did the translators of the LXX use for the
latter? I thought that calling out for a meeting in Y(D was closer to ekkalew
than QHL with its idea of assembling, unless the Greek understanding of
ekklesia was necessarily a public assemblage, while MW(D could be and often
was a private meeting? What words did the LXX use for Y(D and MW(D? What
other words did they use of QHL? ( QHL was not always used for a called out
meeting or assemblage, but also refered to a collection of nations, as in
Genesis. )

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>

>
> Dear Dora,
>
> > I have to check this out. Doesn't quite look like a Hebrew word to me
> > ....
> > grin.
> >
> > I am taking a not very academic class at church on the Gospel of Matthew.
> > We are using a definitely not all that academic text. In Matthew 16:18,
> > it
> > says that on Peter Jesus will build his church. Text says that the word
> > ekklesia is also used in the OT to mean "community of the faithful".
> >
>
> However, the word EKKLHSIA does occur a hundred times in the
> Septuagint, and it does mean the community or assembly there, with
> reference to the people of Israel. The word occurs in Deuteronomy,
> Joshua, Judges, 1 Samuel, 1 Kings, 1 and 2 Chronicles, Ezra, and
> Nehemiah.
>
> Here are the verses where it occurs. I give the English: (read original
> posting)
>
> Yours,
> Harold Holmyard
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