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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Karl Randolph <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- Cc: Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim
- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:17:11 +0000
On 12/11/2004 15:53, Karl Randolph wrote:
Harold:Karl, you may be right that the original meaning is "ray" rather than "horn". But it does look to me as if the data from other languages suggests the meaning "horn". Cognates are found in Akkadian, Arabic, Ethiopic, Phoenician and Aramaic, and loan word forms in Latin ("cornu") and even in English ("horn"), all with the meaning "horn" but as far as I know nowhere else "ray". This implies that any semantic shift from "ray" to "horn" must have happened very early in the history of Semitic languages. Also horns were a very obvious physical part of Semitic pastoralist culture, whereas the concept of an individual ray is rather an advanced one. So my money, if only 2p, would be on an original sense "horn".
I'm inclined to agree with you.
Horns come out from an animal in the same manner as rays from a light source, and though in
Tanakh the "horn" use is more common, the "ray" use is closer to the root
meaning. At least that's my 2ยข on the matter.
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Uri Hurwitz, 11/11/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Yigal Levin, 11/11/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim, Peter Kirk, 11/12/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Yigal Levin, 11/11/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/12/2004
- [b-hebrew] Karnaim, Joseph I. Lauer, 11/12/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Karnaim, Ken Penner, 11/12/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/12/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Yigal Levin, 11/11/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Yigal Levin, 11/11/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Uri Hurwitz, 11/11/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Karnaim,
Peter Kirk, 11/12/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Karnaim, Ken Penner, 11/12/2004
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