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Re: [b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant
- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Michael Banyai <Banyai AT t-online.de>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant
- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:44:36 +0100
On 19/08/2004 10:11, Michael Banyai wrote:
...This seems a good argument for Abraham's Pharaoh's first name being Nebkaure. But there is another possibility put forward by David Rohl, that he was Nebkaure Khety of the 10th (or 9th?) dynasty (whose father's name is unknown or uncertain). Is there a good reason to prefer one Nebkaure to the other, except that Amenemhet II is better known?
Now the numerous refferences to Abraham as associated with Amenemhet II (an
equation I take very serious).
"So findet sich immer wieder eine Angabe, daß als Zeitgenosse Abrahams ein ägyptischer König anzutreffen sei, dessen Name verschieden überliefert wird: Plin. nat. hist. 36, 11,74 Nencoreus Sesoidis filius
Chron. Pasch, p. 46 Nechor
Theoph. ad. Autol. II31 Nechaon
Josephus bell. Jud. V9,4 Nachans
Malalas 59 (und 70) Naracho
Cedr. I 35 Narecho
Exc. Barb. 65 Arouth (aus Narouch, vgl. Unger, Manetho p. 129)
Malalas 27 Maracho
Johannes v. Antiochien FHG IV 543 Karacho
Wir sehen hier deutlich, wie sich der Name in der Überlieferung verändert; dabei
ist die von Plinius überlieferte Form Nencoreus die beste und zeigt an, dass es
sich um Nebkaure Amenemhet II des Sohnes Sesotris I handeln muß. Die Angabe stammt
also aus einer Quelle, die eine ägyptische Liste bei der Behandlung jüdischer
chronologischer Probleme herangezogen hat. Dass es nicht Manetho war, ergibt
sich dadurch, dass dieser ja Amenemhet II mit seinem Geburtnamen als Ammenemes
aufzählt."One must not accept unconditioned the last sentence of Helck.
Best regards,Bányai MichaelStuttgart
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[b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant,
Michael Banyai, 08/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant,
Peter Kirk, 08/19/2004
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[b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant,
Michael Banyai, 08/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant,
Peter Kirk, 08/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant, Michael Banyai, 08/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant,
Peter Kirk, 08/19/2004
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[b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant,
Michael Banyai, 08/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hyksos Manetho et al - was Ark of the covenant,
Peter Kirk, 08/19/2004
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