b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Biblical Hebrew Forum
List archive
- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Stoney Breyer <stoneyb AT touchwood.net>
- Cc: 'b-hebrew' <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH's attitude towards zonah
- Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:32:30 +0100
On 16/07/2004 19:36, Stoney Breyer wrote:
...
2) Vince reminds us that words change their meanings: May the LXX
translations as porne in Genesis and Deuteronomy reflect an exegetical
tradition strongly influenced by precisely such an equation of sexual
and religious transgression? Or may they represent the LXX translators'
best guesses from context?
This is not impossible. But it demonstrates at least that such an understanding is ancient, even if it is an ancient misunderstanding.
(And by the way, just out of curiosity, does LXX distinguish between
zona and qedesha in these places?)
In Gen 38, no: vv. 15, 21x2, 22 PORNH, v.24 EKPEPORNEUKEN ... PORNEIAS
Nor in Deut 23: v.18 PORNH ... PORNEUWN, v.19 PORNH ... KUWN ("dog"). But I notice an interesting double translation in v.18 LXX, in English literally:
There will not be PORNH from daughters of Israel,
and there will not be PORNEUWN from sons of Israel;
there will not be TELESFOROS from daughters of Israel,
and there will not be TELISKOMENOS from sons of Israel.
But the Hebrew text has just one clause for daughters and one for sons.
The only glosses I can find are:
TELESFOROS = being in charge, having a ritual task; person with a sacral duty, temple prostitute
TELISKOMENOS = sb who is initiated, an initiate
and both are used only here in LXX.
--
Peter Kirk
peter AT qaya.org (personal)
peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
http://www.qaya.org/
-
Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH's attitude towards kadesh/kadeshah
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH's attitude towards kadesh/kadeshah, Harold R. Holmyard III, 07/15/2004
-
Re: [b-hebrew] Re: [b-hebrew YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
-
[b-hebrew] Re: YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Patrina, 07/16/2004
- [b-hebrew] Re: YHWH's attitude towards zonah, Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
-
[b-hebrew] Re: YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Patrina, 07/16/2004
-
[b-hebrew] RE: [b-hebrew YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Stoney Breyer, 07/16/2004
-
Re: [b-hebrew] RE: [b-hebrew YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
-
RE: [b-hebrew] RE: [b-hebrew YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Stoney Breyer, 07/16/2004
-
Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] YHWH's attitude towards zonah, Stoney Breyer, 07/16/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] YHWH's attitude towards zonah, Harold R. Holmyard III, 07/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH's attitude towards zonah, Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
-
Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
-
RE: [b-hebrew] RE: [b-hebrew YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Stoney Breyer, 07/16/2004
-
Re: [b-hebrew] RE: [b-hebrew YHWH's attitude towards zonah,
Peter Kirk, 07/16/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Zonah v Qadeshah & What Judah Thought, Stoney Breyer, 07/15/2004
Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.