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  • From: "George F. Somsel" <gfsomsel AT juno.com>
  • To: peterkirk AT qaya.org
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune -- 1 Chron
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 06:44:16 -0400

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 02:23:07 -0700 Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
writes:
> On 01/07/2004 22:30, david.kimbrough AT charter.net wrote:
>
> >George,
> >
> >Ignoring the fact that only about %10 of any population
> >will be left-handed, ...
> >
>
> This may be true of any general population. But left-handedness is
> at
> least partly hereditary. The Benjamites were a small inbred group
> who
> could well have had an unusually high proportion of left-handers,
> and
> these might have been specially chosen for training as sling men -
> just
> as you will find an unusually high proportion of left-handers among
> spin
> bowlers in cricket, and professional boxers I think.
>
> There is of course an irony here in that Benjamin means "son of
> right
> hand" i.e. right-handed!
>
___________

Peter,

Come, now. I'm sure you know that Benjamin BiN:YfMIN meant "Southern."
They were "rednecks." :-) Just kidding, all you U.S. southerners. It
does, however, refer to the south. The orientation when calculating
directions was toward the east so that to the "right" was the south and
)aXa:RoWN > )aXa:R"Y (behind) was west.

george
gfsomsel
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Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Re: Compound Words in Hebrew
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Hi!

The Hebrew word in Daniel 8:11 which was translated "daily sacrifice" in KJV
and NIV and "regular burnt offering"in NRS is TAMID. Does TAMID cover only
the morning-evening in the earthly sanctuary, or the evening-morning ? I
understand TAMID to mean the round-the-clock service in the sanctuary, both
morning-evening and evening-morning. I also understand that EREB-BOQUER in
Daniel 8:14 refers to the same TAMID which was taken away by the little horn
and is restored after 2300 TAMIDS - or SANCTUARY DAYS which includes the
regular morning and evening lambs, the regular lamp burning at night, and
everything else that happened in the Sanctuary service - the TAMID. If you
do a search on the word TAMID in the BHS you will see that TAMID covers
every aspect of the sanctuary service- the CONTINUAL or ROUND THE CLOCK.

As all translations are interpretations, the fact that the Septuagint and
the Theodotion translators translated EREB-BOQUER as "DAYS" is interesting
to note, but of little value when one attempts to understand the meaning of
the original text.


Regards,

Eduard




From: "Lira" <rosangelalira AT terra.com.br>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [b-hebrew] Re: Compound Words in Hebrew
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:05:09 -0300

Edward,



Hello.


All sanctuary procedures were spoken of as "morning-evening". The sole
exception, which you pointed out, was the lighting of the lampstands, which
were lit on a sunset to sunrise ("evening-morning") basis. Doing so would
ensure that the oil would last throughout the dark hours. However, the
continual burnt offering is never spoken of as "evening-morning", but as
"morning-evening" (see Exodus 29:39; Leviticus 6:12-13; Num 28:4; 2 Kgs
16:15; 1 Chron 16:40; 23:30; 2 Chron 2:4; 13:11; 31:3; Ezra 3:3).

As to the Septuagint and the Theodotion translations, of course the word
"days" was supplied. My point was that the translators evidently interpreted
the phrase as meaning "days", not "sacrifices".



Blessings,



Rosangela.

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