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["VC" <vadim_lv AT center-tv.net>]

Dear Listmembers,

Would anyone like to discuss these two verses?
Basically, what do mishchat and naza mean, in your opinion?


Sincerely,

Vadim Cherny
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The islands
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 22:33:29 +0300
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Dear Yigal,

I don't doubt that island is from ein, no land, nothing, minor.

And, if we don't have any proof that island is a coastline, why do we
translate thus? The burden of proof is on the one inventing the meaning.

Best regards,

Vadim Cherny

>
> While I really have not decided whether )Iy primarily means "island" or
> "coastland", using a "dictionary of living Hebrew" is problematic. There
is
> no doubt that in both Mishnaic and modern Hebrew, )Iy means "island".
> However, this alone is no proof that that's what it meant in biblical
> Hebrew.
>
> By the way, does anyone have a guess about the word's etymology? Does it
> appear in other Semitic languages?
>
> Yigal
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "VC" <vadim_lv AT center-tv.net>
> To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The islands
>
>
> > I'm referring to the dictionaries of living Hebrew, like Shapiro or
> > Steinberg, not a Tanakhic dictionary with speculative interpretations
> > instead of the established meanings.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Vadim Cherny
> >
> > > >>>The translation of "coastland" is perfectly reasonable. However,
can
> we
> > > >>>disregard the established meaning of the word and attach it the
> sense,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >which
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>we think suits it better? This approach can lead as far away.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>HH: "Coastland" is a well-established meaning for the word.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Not in the conventional Hebrew dictionaries
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm not sure what dictionaries you consider "conventional", but one of
> > > the best respected in English for nearly 100 years has been
> > > Brown-Driver-Briggs, and its gloss is "coast, region". If that's too
> > > modern for you, try Strong: "dry land, a coast, an island"; or
Davidson:
> > > "habitable earth or land, coast, sea-coast, island".
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Kirk
> > > peter AT qaya.org (personal)
> > > peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
> > > http://www.qaya.org/
> > >
> > >
> >
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