Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Noam Eitan <noameitan AT yahoo.com>]

>Dear All,

 

>For example - Following a reading of Genesis 4:1:  The verb TeLeD

>(supposedly an imperfect that I absolutely can not fit into any known

>conjugation) Working on the premise that I am at fault in my understanding I

>try to look it up.  It is listed on page 468 under number 146. And yes this

>provides, in this instance, no further understanding of the way this

>imperfect?? is conjugated.

 

>Thankyou, Chris.

 

TeLeD is listed under the root YLD. TeLeD (ignoring the waw in Genesis 4:1) 
is Qal Imperfect 3fs (could be in theory also 2ms, but is meaningless and 
does not exist, as long as males do not give birth – Jer 30:6) of a specific 
subtype of weak verbs, i.e., weak verbs starting with a Yod where the first 
consonant of the verbal root drops off in every form of the imperfect 
inflection and the imperfect preformative vowel is Tsere throughout. Verbs of 
this type are difficult to recognize because the initial consonant Yod is 
lost, leaving only the second and third consonants of the verbal root. (The 
Yod in the 3ms and 3mp [YeLeD, YeLDu – does not exist for this root] forms is 
the Imperfect preformative and not the first consonant of the verbal root). 
Other examples: TeSheV,  from YShV (to sit); TeLeCh, from HLCh (to go), which 
inflects in the same way despite the H instead of Yod.

 

Even shoshan doesn’t get into that – how can he? A different issue I have 
with him is that on about 3-5 occasions I looked up words that were not 
mentioned at all in his concordance, and I’m pretty sure I checked the right 
place. He did not work with a computer.

 

Noam Eitan , Brooklyn


                
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On Saturday 22 May 2004 08:51, wattswestmaas wrote:
> Dear Most experienced scholars,
>
> A rather quick question about 'The Learning Methodology' for mastering weak
> verbs.  Are there any tips and tricks (apart from having a book with the
> complete conjugations) about grasping them OR is it a simple case of
> "forget it, just learn how to recognise them in their various forms"
>
> What do the majority of you do - if I may ask?

Chris,
I learned a handful of rules regarding things like vowel lengthening, open 
and 
closed syllables, and the like, that I was able to use in reading to make at 
least an educated guess about the form of a word.  In the case of T"LED that 
someone else brought up, for example, the tsere under the preformative tells 
me at once that there's a reason for the lengthening: most likely, an 
assimilated yod that is probably part of the root.  That gives me a root YLD, 
which I can then look up if I don't already know it.  The beginning grammar I 
learned from was Marks and Rogers, and it spent a lot of time on such things, 
showing typical vowel lengthening and reducing patterns in various kinds of 
weak verbs.  I can highly recommend this kind of approach, because it not 
only avoids memorizing those godawful paradigm lists, but it gives you visual 
cues for spotting unorthodox forms as well.

>From there I can offer three pieces of advice: read, read, read.

-- 
Dave Washburn
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