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  • From: "Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] agent or patient in Psa. 33:12?
  • Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:21:52 -0500

Dear Jason,

Are there other examples of BXR being used without the B- prefix on the
object? I'm sure that others can be cited, especially in poetic style
literature. Anyone have references?

HH: Joshua 8:3 and Judges 5:8 are good ones (cf. 1 Sm 2:28). Remember the understood relative clause may affect the grammar, for B tends to be absent in those constructions. See Ex 17:9; Num 16:7; Dt 12:5, 11.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard


Thanks,
Jason

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>
To: "B-Hebrew@Lists. Ibiblio. Org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] agent or patient in Psa. 33:12?


Dear Michael,
The object chosen is usually in a prepositional
phrase headed by the preposition B-.
bHr takes bet-
Therefore rather than lw, you'd expect bw if God were
the object of the choosing.
Lw refers back to the subject, it is "for himself."
However, in that case, I don't understand why Ha'am isn't preceded
by B-.
Liz Fried
Ann Arbor

> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Deborah Millier
> Sent: Tue, May 11, 2004 3:39 PM
> To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [b-hebrew] agent or patient in Psa. 33:12?
>
>
> Dear B-Hebrew Listers,
>
> In Psa. 33:12 we read:
>
> WYHL) HWHY  R$) YWGH YR$)
> WL HLXNL RXB M(H
>
> It is usually translated something like:
>
> Happy is the nation whose God is YHWH,
> The people whom He has chosen as His inheritance.
>
> Now, whats to prevent me from here understanding YHWH
> as affected patient (i.e. the chosen) and Ha-AM as
> agent (i.e. the one doing the choosing)? This would
> produce a translation something like:
>
> Happy is the nation whose God is YHWH,
> The people that has chosen Him to be its inheritance.
>
> This rendition:
>
> 1) makes perfect (better?) sense in context.
> 2) maintains synonymous parallelism.
> 3) has attested meaning in other portions of the
> TaNaKH.
>
> As always, your feedback is appreciated. Thanks in
> advance.
>
> Sincerely,
> -- Michael Millier
>
>
>
>
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