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  • From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
  • To: Joel Nothman <jnothman AT student.usyd.edu.au>, david.kimbrough AT charter.net
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  • Subject: Re: RE: [b-hebrew] 1 Sam 5:6 ; Mice & Rats & Plague
  • Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:45:31 -0700 (PDT)

The word for rat in modern Heb. used to be akhberosh with an ayin; so also
in Alcalay; chulda was also used, but the term really applies to weasel. An
Israeli zoologist would be the authority on this.

The precise meaning of the biblical akhbar , whether mouse or rat, is
anybody's guess. BDB understands it as the former.

Uri


Joel Nothman <jnothman AT student.usyd.edu.au> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 3:57:41 +0000, wrote:

> Karl,
>
> Before rambling on about rats and fleas, does BH, or even
> Modern Hebrew have different words for rat and mouse?

I find "chulda" = het.vav.lamed.dalet.heh as opposed to "achbar" =
ayin.kaf.bet.resh from MH.
The dictionary from onlinebible.com (through Davar) tranlsates chulda as
weasel.

- Joel

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<<Original message from Phillip Brown on Qal Pasives>>

The lack of corresponding active forms (Dstem/Piel & Hstem/Hiphil) for the
suggested Qal passive forms was a fairly cogent argument for us when we
were trying to decide on the best designation of these forms in the Old
Testament Parsing Guide. The balance of the evidence for these forms,
taken as a whole, was that they did not present a consistent pattern of
Dstem or Hstem nuances. Also, the MT contains other examples of internal
vocalization (the internal or broken plural, cf. slaav, Num 11:32)
preserved in the MT, which may or may not have been recognized as such by
the Masoretes.

The OTPG was intended as a easy reference tool to the MT and each of the
authors had a high (or, at least, higher than many) view of the validity
of the Masoretic vocalization. The decision to cite the verbs in question
as Qal passives was a departure from our standard supposition and was
heavily influenced by all the factors stated so succinctly by Trevor
Peterson.

Colin Smith
Professor of Old Testament Languages
Baptist Bible College
Clarks Summit, PA
email: colin AT s-m-i-t-h.com

Colin Smith




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