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- From: "Trevor & Julie Peterson" <06peterson AT cua.edu>
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- Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Re: hwh in Hifil?
- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 05:41:45 -0400
Joe wrote:
> However, with a stative verb, the
> hiphil is not causative, but instead tends to increase
> the state of the verb in Qal and make the verb transitive. Thus the
> stative verb RWM "to be high" in the Hiphil does not mean "to
> cause" anything, but "to increase the height of X, to raise
> X." It increases the state of "high" and allows the verb to
> take a direct object.
I don't know that this is a very good example of what you're trying to
show. If the C of RWM is viewed as "cause to be high," the sense of
"raise" fits quite well.
>
> Once this is seen, it becomes obvious why HYH "to be" (a
> stative rather than an active verb) would not have a Hiphil
> form, since one would expect the hiphil would not mean "cause
> to be" but "increase being for X." The ocassions for
> expressing that meaning would be so rare that it would be not
> be likely to occur.
But it does in fact occur in Syriac, which has to be explained somehow.
>
> If YAHWEH is a verb related to "to be" (as Exod 3:14
> suggests) rather than pun/folk etymology, it is probably
> based on an archaic form of HAYAH before the W became a Y in
> later Hebrew (see original first vav verbs like YALAD which
> were originally WALAD forms and the Aramaic form HWH "to be").
Could you elaborate on this? How does a shift from W to Y in the first
radical substantiate a shift elsewhere? In Akkadian, for instance, the
fate of W develops differently at the beginning of a word and elsewhere.
(The end result is that it drops initially but shifts to M medially.)
I'm not saying that there isn't evidence for a medial shift from W to Y
in Hebrew, but I don't think this argument works.
>
> Yahweh would then be a Qal imperfect form. The Qal normally
> takes an /I/ vowel under the preformative YOD, but the /A/
> vowel is influenced by the gutteral HE that tends to prefer
> /A/ vowels over the /I/ vowel of the paradygm for Qal
> imperfects and caused the /I/ to gravitate to that /A/ vowel.
> Thus the /A/ vowel has nothing to do with the hiphil form,
> even though it would be a homonym of a hypothetical hiphil
> form, but has to do with the gutteral in the root.
But the regular Qal prefixal forms from HYH show an i-vowel. Even Qal
forms from the root XYH, with a stronger gutteral xet, show an i-vowel.
Trevor Peterson
CUA/Semitics
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RE: [b-hebrew] Re: hwh in Hifil?,
Trevor & Julie Peterson, 08/12/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Re: hwh in Hifil?, Peter Kirk, 08/12/2003
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- [b-hebrew] Re: hwh in Hifil?, furuli, 08/12/2003
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