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Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7
- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7
- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:54:16 -0500
Dear Jim:
I admit, when I first saw this verse in Isaiah, I recognized that it
contradicted all the other verses that I knew about God being the source of
evil.
R( ra is given as an opposite to +WB tob in Genesis 24:50, 31:24,
29, Leviticus 27:10 and other verses. Therefore, I figured that one way to
find out the meaning of ra is to understand tob.
+WB tob many times is not used for that which is morally good, but it is
always used for that which is pleasing, as everyone did what was pleasing
in his eyes or referring to things that are pleasing to kings, and so forth.
In a moral sense, that which is pleasing to God is good, hence the
theological translation of good is often a good one into English, but that
is not always true. The refrain in Judges has tob referring to evil.
That would make ra to have the root meaning of displeasing as the opposite
of pleasing. In verses such as Leviticus 27:10 and Deuteronomy 15:21 ra is
used referring to something that is bad in the displeasing sense, not the
morally corrupt sense. Because bad has the moral connotations besides the
displeasing ones, I think that displeasing may be a better translation
where the moral connotation of evil does not fit, such as in Deuteronomy
28:35, 2 Kings 4:41 and Is. 45:7.
For the morally corrupt sense of bad BH has the word R$( reshaa.
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim West <jwest AT highland.net>
> At 03:08 PM 7/31/03 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >
> >I translate Is. 45:7 thusly, "Former of light and creator of darkness,
> maker of fullness and creator of displeasure, I am YHWH the one who makes
> all of these."
>
> I don't understand fully how you render r'a as "displeasure". Is it
> contextually accurate? Further, what other occurences of r'a would merit
> such a rendering? "evil" or "wickedness" seem to be the standard
> understanding and are a tad more forceful, it seems to me, than
> "displeasure" which sort of sounds like a softening of meaning based on a
> theological preconception about God.
>
> Best
>
> Jim
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Jim West
> Quartz Hill School of Theology
> Adjunct Professor of Biblical Studies
>
> Biblical Studies Resources
> http://web.infoave.net/~jwest
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Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7,
Karl Randolph, 07/31/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7, J. Raymond Kelley, 07/31/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7,
Jim West, 07/31/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7, CS Bartholomew, 07/31/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7, Karl Randolph, 07/31/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7, Bearpecs, 07/31/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Job 12:16 interpreted in context of Is. 45:7, Karl Randolph, 07/31/2003
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