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  • From: Peter Kirk <peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com>
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Potiphar's title
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:30:35 -0700

On 10/07/2003 15:17, Stephen C. Carlson wrote:

I weighed into state that there is indeed a method for
distinguishing cognates from loanwords, rather than the
all-or-nothing approach that seems to be being argued
in other messages in the thread.

I agree that, in a thread discussion such as this, citing
the relevant authorities is sufficient to shift the onus
on the one challenging the scholarly consensus. In my own
defence, I must have missed the post where you did exactly
that!

I had earlier quoted from the TWOT entry including its own reference to TDNT. Then I mentioned BDB and K-B. A reasonable set of authorities, I think.

Just because there is a "consensus", that does not make it
true. It may be worthwhile to follow up the cites and re-
evaluate the analysis behind the commonly accepted result,
particularly if it had gone unchallenged for a century.
Methods and assumptions do change, after all, so the analysis
that produced the result may no longer be acceptable today. Sometimes, it may even turn out that no analysis had in
fact been done originally.

Absolutely! But I didn't say the analysis had only be done more than a century ago, just that it was first done then. HALOT (K-B) cite references in this etymology:

Akk. /ša rēši/ “the one at the head” (pl. /šūt rēši/ vSoden /Gramm/. §46d; MSL 8/1:74) which includes steward, director, and later eunuch (AHw. 974a)

vSoden /Gramm/. = W. von Soden, Grundriss der akkadischen Grammatik, Rome 1952
MSL = B. Landsberger, Materialen zum sumerischen Lexicon, Rome 1937–
AHw = W. von Soden, Akkadisches Handwörterbuch, Wiesbaden 1965–

Not 21st century scholarship, but not 19th century either. See also Rab-Saris, 2 Ki 18:17, in a list of Assyrian titles.

Please be sure that I am not suggesting that the responsibility
for this following-up be imposed on you, Peter. You did your
part. Let the challenger, if he is still interested, do his.

Well, I just did some of it. Let any remaining challengers take it further.

--
Peter Kirk
peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/






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