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  • From: "Peter Kirk" <Peter_R_Kirk AT hotmail.com>
  • To: "'Biblical Hebrew'" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: RE: c.ar li
  • Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 12:45:18 +1100


I don't see the problem. What is wrong with BDB's parsing of CAR as a
noun? This is well attested, BDB notes 27 occurrences as a noun plus 6
as an adjective, in 15 of which the one in distress is indicated by L-.
Also the attested perfect form of the verb CRR is not CAR but CFRAR, Hos
4:19 and Prov 30:4.

Peter Kirk
peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
 
-----Original Message-----
From: S. L. [mailto:lyosovs AT cityline.ru]
Sent: 29 November 2002 07:39
To: Biblical Hebrew
Subject: [b-hebrew] c.ar li

    Dear list,
I have hard  times parsing Ps 18:7 bac.c.ar li (c. = tsade). BDB 865a
has it as a noun 'straits, distress': 'in my distress'. HALAT 990b has
it as Perf. 3ms of c.rr II 'ist in  Not', i.e. as an impersonal verb.  
In view of Gen 32:8 wayyec.er  lo 'he became distresses' and Ruth 1:13
'ki mar li mikkem' + Jer 4:18 'ki mar'  'for it is bitter'  etc. I would
take bac.c.ar li for a verbal phrase 'when I was distressed', but how to
explain the gemination of tsade? GK 138i is rather reluctant to admit -
without a compulsory reason -  the article as relative pronoun on
perfects, and it does not list Ps 18:7 among the examples. 
  The very same 'bac.c.ar li'  reappears in Ps 66:14. In Pss 59: 17 and
102:3   it is written  'byom c.ar li'. To my mind (and against BDB) 
here 'byom' does introduce a  Perf. 'c.ar', serving as a  relative
pronoun, cf. Lev 7:35; Deut 4:15; 2 Sam 22:1.
  Does anybody have suggestions?
                     Serge Lyosov
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  • c.ar li, S. L., 11/28/2002
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