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  • From: Moshe Shulman <mshulman AT ix.netcom.com>
  • To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Psalm 22:16 like a lion they mauled, the emendation question
  • Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:42:56 -0400


At 07:54 AM 9/15/02 -0400, you wrote:

It seems that G-d made a serious oversight in that the words of the Tenach were in Hebrew and not in English. He made it so easy for people to become confused.

Shalom b-Hebrew,
Psalm 22:16 - KJB
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me:
they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalms 22:16 (www.unboundbible.com)
ybs kxrs kxy vlsvny mdbq mlqvxy vljpr-mvt tsptny.

First I would point out that the best Christian (mis)translation is the Douay version which has:

"For many dogs have encompassed me: the council of the malignant hath besieged me. They have dug my hands and feet."

While there are some problems I see, it is at least consistent in translating KARU according to its theory that it is a verb, and what root it has. It is the only one I have seen that has done that, although the Christian Lexicons that try to support the Christian translation all attest to that begin the correct translation of the root word KVR.

The primary problem I have seen in English speakers is a misunderstanding of Hebrew poetic forms. For example the following with punctuation removed presents no problem:

"The council of the malignant hath besieged me like a lion at my hands and feet."

Makes perfect sense. We understand it and the imagery is clear. Now if we add the first clause that appears in the Hebrew poetry we get:

"For many dogs have encompassed me. The council of the malignant hath besieged me like a lion at my hands and feet."

From here we can see how the JPS has translated it:

"For dogs have encompassed me; a company of evil-doers have inclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet."

Because of the punctuation used (which does not appear in the Hebrew) there is a need to add who the subject is (which was obvious in the Hebrew.)

Psalm 22:16 - JPS-1985
Dogs surround me; a pack of evil ones close in on me,
like lions (they maul) my hands and feet...


The JPS 1985 is not a literal translation, but uses a style which tries to be more explanative, and less of a tool for teaching Biblical Hebrew.

So the "like a", even if it is not innate in karu, seems to be translated/emendated :-)
similarly in another passage by all translators...

As I said, it would have been easier if G-d had taught all those ancient Hebrews English so that we wouldn't need any of those pesky translations.





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