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- From: "Lee R. Martin" <lmartin AT vol.com>
- To: "Rolf Furuli" <furuli AT online.no>
- Cc: "Hebrew List" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms
- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:03:37 -0400
Dear Rolf,
How are you able to determine which of these are "future perfects"? Why
can't all of them be future perfects?
Lee R. Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolf Furuli" <furuli AT online.no>
To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms
> Dear Ken,
>
> In my list of 965 perfects (QATAL and not WEQATAL) in the whole Tanach,
> where reference time comes after the deictic point (future reference), 91
> are from the Psalms. Three or four of these are "future perfect" and the
> rest are simple future. This indicates that there are about as many QATALs
> with future reference in the Psalms as elsewhere.
>
> I will use the opportunity to ask the list for a definition of "prophetic
> perfect" which is not a tautology. In my view the term is meaningless, and
> it was coined in the first place to try to explain away the simple fact
> that QATAL (without WAW) often has future reference.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Rolf
>
>
> Rolf Furuli
> University of Oslo
>
>
>
> >How common are the so-called "prophetic perfects" in the Psalms?
> >
> >Waltke&O'Connor and GKC don't give examples from Psalms, and I don't have
> >Diethelm Michel's study on tenses in the Psalms with me today.
> >
> >E. Puech wants to take the perfect verbs of salvation in the Hodayot as
> >prophetic perfects. I'm trying to determine how unusual this would be.
> >
> >Ken Penner
> >Ph.D. student, Biblical Field (Early Judaism)
> >McMaster University
> >Hamilton, Canada
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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-
Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms,
Penner, 04/18/2001
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Daniel Wagner, 04/18/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Rolf Furuli, 04/18/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Charles David Isbell, 04/18/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Daniel Wagner, 04/18/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, rolf furuli, 04/19/2001
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Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms,
Lee R. Martin, 04/19/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Rolf Furuli, 04/20/2001
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Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms,
Lee R. Martin, 04/23/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Rolf Furuli, 04/23/2001
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Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms,
Lee R. Martin, 04/23/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Rolf Furuli, 04/23/2001
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Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms,
Lee R. Martin, 04/23/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Rolf Furuli, 04/24/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Lee R. Martin, 04/25/2001
- Re: Prophetic Perfects in the Psalms, Rolf Furuli, 04/25/2001
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