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- From: "Dave Washburn" <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
- To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: re: perfect vs imperfect
- Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:26:48 -0700
>
> >>> >(Holmyard)but they are aspects,
> >>> in speaking of action as complete or incomplete. Thus both can be used
> of
> >>> past time or future time.<
> >>(Buth)
> >> but they are not 'pure' aspects, either. When talking about future
> events
> >> the prefix verb is not usually referring to the ASPECT of the event, to
> an
> >> "in-process, incomplete" event, rather it usually refers to an
> aspectually
> >> complete (=perfective) event in the future. Thus YAVO is usually a
> simple
> >> 'he will come' rather than 'he will be coming'.
> >
> >[snip]
> >(Washburn)
> >Agreed. That's why Hatav's work is so exciting. By moving the
> >main focus of the discussion out of the aspect realm and into the
> >area of modality, she has resolved a lot of the problems associated
> >with the aspect approach. Hence, the suffix conjugation is "realis"
> >mode and the prefix is "irrealis" which includes future.
>
> except when prefix is not "irrealis" but assumes reality, like with
> habituals.
> or when suffix verbs are used with 'irrealis' 'if he had done it (but he
> didn't)'. This is in the JOTT article, too.
> Just to complicate matters.
>
Hatav very effectively classifies habituals as modal as well. Since I
can't get my hands on the JOTT article, could you give an example
or two of the irrealis suffix verb?
Dave Washburn
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-
perfect vs imperfect,
Michael DePangher, 03/21/2001
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: perfect vs imperfect, Dave Washburn, 03/21/2001
- perfect vs imperfect, Harold R. Holmyard III, 03/21/2001
- re: perfect vs imperfect, Randall Buth, 03/22/2001
- re: perfect vs imperfect, Dave Washburn, 03/22/2001
- Re: perfect vs imperfect, Raymond de Hoop, 03/22/2001
- Re: perfect vs imperfect, Dave Washburn, 03/22/2001
-
RE: perfect vs imperfect,
Peter Kirk, 03/23/2001
- RE: perfect vs imperfect, Peter Kirk, 03/28/2001
- re: perfect vs imperfect, Randall Buth, 03/24/2001
- re: perfect vs imperfect, Dave Washburn, 03/24/2001
- re: perfect vs imperfect, Randall Buth, 03/25/2001
- Re: perfect vs imperfect, Lee R. Martin, 03/26/2001
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