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- From: "Christian M. M. Brady" <cbrady AT tulane.edu>
- To: H-Bible <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_
- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:08:37 -0600
On 1/31/01 11:07 AM, "Moshe Shulman" <mshulman AT ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> At 09:33 PM 1/30/01 -0500, Shoshanna Walker wrote:
>>> Mehullelet (a woman who has been profaned). Incidently Moshe Shulman is
>>> perfectly right that when the Ketuba was a real contract and not a
>>> ceremonial one,
>> I never disputed this, the Ketuba IS a legal document, and I never ever
>> said or implied that it was a ceremonial one. Not at all. And the word
>> Betula was used to denote a woman not previously married, because her
>> LEGAL status and rights according to Ketuba and the rabbis who instituted
>> it, are different than those of a woman who was already married and
>> widowed or divorced.
>> The Ketuba was not a document whose purpose was to morally judge a woman's
>> virtue - the rabbis were wise enough then, to leave that as a private
>> matter.
>
>
> I am sorry but you are just wrong. A women who is found out not to have
> been a virgin (and in Jewish law there is a description) can be divorced
> the next day and lose all benifit from the ketubah. You just do not know
> what you are talking about. This appears in the talmud and in Shulchan
> Aruch. It may be that you are not aware of any people who still take it
> seriously. But there are.
But today presumably one would still need to get the civil authorities to
annul the marriage, yes?
Cb
cbrady @ tulane.edu
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Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_
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- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Moshe Shulman, 01/30/2001
- RE: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Liz Fried, 01/30/2001
- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Christian M. M. Brady, 01/30/2001
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RE: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_,
Shoshanna Walker, 01/30/2001
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RE: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_,
Liz Fried, 01/30/2001
- RE: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Shoshanna Walker, 01/30/2001
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RE: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_,
Liz Fried, 01/30/2001
- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Raymond de Hoop, 01/31/2001
- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Dave Washburn, 01/31/2001
- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Dave Washburn, 01/31/2001
- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Raymond de Hoop, 01/31/2001
- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Christian M. M. Brady, 01/31/2001
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Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_,
Jonathan D. Safren, 01/31/2001
- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Christian M. M. Brady, 01/31/2001
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- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Dave Washburn, 01/31/2001
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- Re: virgin: _BETHULAH_ and/or _(ALMAH_, Jonathan D. Safren, 01/31/2001
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