Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Peter Kirk"<peter_kirk AT sil.org>]

There is another alternative which may be relevant to Proverbs 29:9 
(which I happened to be looking at this morning): this verb can mean 
"mock" or "scoff". The translation of this verse which you quote is 
doubtful: there is no indication in the Hebrew for "whether... or", 
but rather more like "both... and"; and it is quite possible to rage 
and to mock at the same time (as has perhaps been demonstrated on this 
list recently). Incidentally, in this verse, is the one who rages and 
mocks the wise man or the fool? I think it is clear not from the 
Hebrew but from the wider context. For the overall message of the 
verse is clear: it is not wise to argue with fools. I am trying to 
learn this lesson.

Peter Kirk


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Subject: LAUGHTER = sahaq = disbelief or sense of incongruity?
Author:  <sundance AT neosoft.com> at Internet 
Date:    15/02/2000 22:54


Please DEFINE sahaq    - from Harold Helm, Houston TX USA 
Gen. 18:12 Therefore Sarah LAUGHED within herself, saying, 
After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being 
old also?
                          compare with

Prov. 29:9 If a wise man contends with a foolish man, 
whether he rage or LAUGH, there is no rest.
Eccl. 3:4 A time to weep, and a time to LAUGH; 
a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
Luke 6:21 Blessed are you that hunger now: for you shall be filled. 
Blessed are you that weep now: for you shall LAUGH.

LAUGHTER = sahaq = disbelief, discomort, or sense of incongruity? 
- or is it an expression of HOPE, of JOY, or of unfulfilled WISH? 
..IS the context one of PLEASURE versus pain, denial and relief?


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