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- From: "Joe A. Friberg" <JoeFriberg AT email.msn.com>
- To: "B-Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Re[2]: Jerusalem, neuter plural
- Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:43:22 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: <peter_kirk AT sil.org>
To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
<snip>
> Summary: The majority of Hebrew dual form names are rendered as -aim
> or -ain in LXX. There is some inconsistency, especially in the
> renderings of "Mahanaim" (which is also often translated as
> "Parembolai") Some have shortened endings such as -an. Only once is
> there an ending -hm (cf. Greek Yerusalhm). There are no cases of an
> upsilon corrseponding to the Hebrew -AYI-, and there are no cases of a
> suffixed -a or any other declinable Greek ending. This suggests that
> it is very unlikely that the Greek form HIEROSOLUMA is derived from a
> Hebrew dual ending.
I agree wholeheartedly with your conclusions thus far. Also, with your
point that:
<snip>
> The closest to the upsilon would be a long I
> sound, as in the Arabic spelling above.
A long /-I-/ could also account for 1) the occurence of -Y- in the 1%
spellings, and 2) for the later /-AYI-/ pronunciation in 2 ways (a)
phonologically it would provide the /Y/ element, and (b) morphologically it
could be re-interpreted as a m.pl. ending, which could support the change to
a dual.
> On the other hand, I have read
> that the form HIEROSOLUMA is derived from an assimilation to a Greek
> popular etymology: HIERO = "Holy" and SOLUMA = ??
This is interesting--no idea of source?
<snip>
> We might be able to help in answering Jonathan's question ("the
> pronunciation Yerushalayim is a late development. How late?") by
> looking at forms in other Middle Eastern languages.
Has Syriac been thrown into the mix yet? It is:
)URI$LeM
Joe Friberg
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Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural
, (continued)
- Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural, Jim West, 09/05/1999
-
Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural,
Jim West, 09/05/1999
- Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural, John Ronning, 09/07/1999
- Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural, Tony Prete, 09/05/1999
- Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural, Jonathan D. Safren, 09/06/1999
- Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural, Joe A. Friberg, 09/06/1999
- Re[2]: Jerusalem, neuter plural, peter_kirk, 09/07/1999
- Re: Re[2]: Jerusalem, neuter plural, Jim West, 09/07/1999
- Re[2]: Jerusalem, neuter plural, peter_kirk, 09/07/1999
- Re[4]: Jerusalem, neuter plural, peter_kirk, 09/08/1999
- Re: Re[2]: Jerusalem, neuter plural, Joe A. Friberg, 09/08/1999
- Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural, John Ronning, 09/09/1999
- Re: Re[2]: Jerusalem, neuter plural, Joe A. Friberg, 09/09/1999
- Re: Jerusalem, neuter plural, Joe A. Friberg, 09/09/1999
- Re[4]: Jerusalem, neuter plural, peter_kirk, 09/10/1999
- Re[4]: Jerusalem, neuter plural, peter_kirk, 09/11/1999
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