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- From: peter_kirk AT sil.org
- To: <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>, <decaen AT chass.utoronto.ca>
- Subject: Re: tiberian phonology, puzzle for peter
- Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 19:18:31 -0400
Not sure why you've singled me out on this one. But it does look like
you are making a good case for four different underlying vowels in the
first syllable of "segholates". But I would need to check the
environments carefully (e.g. does )EBEN become )FBEN in pause because
of the aleph? - is the aleph treated as a guttural in pause?). I would
also want to check the distributions of the pausal forms used for
diagnosis, as some might be rather rare and I would not want to be
confused by dialect variations. But in principle I have no reason to
object to your analysis.
Peter Kirk
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Subject: tiberian phonology, puzzle for peter
Author: decaen AT chass.utoronto.ca at internet
Date: 05/08/1999 13:51
hey peter,
since you easily grasp the principles of phonological analysis, here's
a teaser to open your mind. ;-)
using standard transcription, and vowels I,",E,A,F,O,U, schwa :
MELEK: "king", P.ESEL "idol"
how many vocalic phonemes (first syllable only!)?
but forms in major pause!?
MELEK: , vs. P.FSEL
how many now?
but closed syllables, unstressed?
MELEK:/MAL:K. vs CEDEQ/CID:Q "righteousness"
P.FSEL/P.IS:L vs )FBEN/)AB:N "stone"
how many now? still just one from *a or *i?
and take a guess which pattern is most common, which least (hint, all
the textbooks take MELEK: as paradigmatic: wrong!).
sholom
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tiberian phonology, puzzle for peter,
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