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  • From: peter_kirk AT sil.org
  • To: <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Hasmonean Bible
  • Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:40:55 -0400


Thank you for making explicit here the underlying philosophical
difference between those who date the Hebrew Bible in Hasmonean or
later times and those who support earlier datings. You are explicitly
presupposing that there is no such thing as genuine predictive
prophecy, which (to over-simplify a major philosophical divide) goes
along with atheism or perhaps deism. But your arguments will never be
convincing to theists who reject your presupposition.

So I am surprised to see a devout Christian like John Burnett showing
an interest in these late dating theories.

Peter Kirk


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Subject: Hasmonean Bible
Author: mattfeld AT mail.pjsnet.com at internet
Date: 20/06/1999 00:47


As the readers of this list are well aware, the last 25 years has seen
new paradigms advanced, positing that the OT is a Post-Exilic creation
dating anywhere from the 6th through 1st centuries BCE, by scholars like
Phillip R. Davies, Niels Peter Lemche, Frederick Cryer, and Thomas L.
Thompson.

I am now offering to those who may have an interest, the latest revision
and expansion of my paper titled Fulfilled Prophecy and the Old
Testament, Clue's to the Bible's Hasmonean and Herodian Origins. The
first draft of this paper (28pp., 18 Apr. 1999) was offered earlier on
this list and it is now some 47 pages. In this work I argue that the
writers of the OT are using 'prophecy-after-the fact' to portray God as
the only god who can predict the future hundreds of years in advance and
then bring the prophecies into realization. My research suggests that
many of these prophecies are realized by the Hasmoneans (BCE 164-64),
thus dating the OT to this period of time. Furthermore, some prophecies
are realized as late as 23 BCE indicating Herodian redactions within the
OT. I thus understand the Qumranic Dead Sea Scrolls to be the original
drafts of what was to become our Bible.

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