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- From: Galia Hatav <ghatav AT aall.ufl.edu>
- To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Re: Verb forms in lists (was Re: Wayyiqtol)
- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:55:31 +0100
Paul wrote,
>Peter_Kirk AT SIL.ORG wrote:
>
>> Galia's response drew me back to the following, to support her
>> suggestion that WAYYIQTOL can be analysed as W-AY-YIQTOL.
>>
>> Look more closely: the forms ARE close. Galia wrote the morpheme in
>> question as AY, but really it is A+dagesh as we see from the first and
>> second person wayyiqtol forms. The Hebrew article is regularly
>> HA+dagesh, but this is reduced to A+dagesh after the prefixed B-, K-
>> and L-. Admittedly the article is not reduced after the copula W-, but
>> the difference is reduced from "not even close" to a minor
>> irregularity like "H is elided after W in verb forms but not in noun
>> forms". This would be easily explained if there is any mileage in
>> Galia's suggestion of two homophone W- prefixes (one perhaps
>> originally P- as Arabic F- ??), one of which elides the H and the
>> other does not. But there could be an explanation even without this
>> approach.
>>
>> Peter Kirk.
>
>Thanks, Peter, for pointing out this possible relationship between the
>definite
>article and the suggested verbal morpheme. It does make more sense,
>although I'm not
>yet quite ready to buy into the proposal completely.
>
>Galia, if you were thinking this same way, I fear you skipped too many
>steps for this
>simple mind to follow. Sorry for the unwarranted questioning of a work
>which was
>stated to be in its initial stages.
>
>Paul
>
>[NOTE: the "not even close" was a quote from one of my postings, which I
>omitted in
>this response. PRZ]
I like Peter's suggestion very much. It shows further the
similarity between NPs with a determiner article (H in Hebrew) and the
wayyiqtol. What are the problems you see with Peter's suggestion, Paul?
Galia
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-
Re: Verb forms in lists (was Re: Wayyiqtol),
Peter_Kirk, 03/01/1999
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Verb forms in lists (was Re: Wayyiqtol), Paul Zellmer, 03/03/1999
- Re: Verb forms in lists (was Re: Wayyiqtol), Galia Hatav, 03/03/1999
- Re: Verb forms in lists (was Re: Wayyiqtol), Galia Hatav, 03/07/1999
- Re: Verb forms in lists (was Re: Wayyiqtol), Paul Zellmer, 03/07/1999
- Re[2]: Verb forms in lists (was Re: Wayyiqtol), peter_kirk, 03/08/1999
- Re[2]: Verb forms in lists (was Re: Wayyiqtol), Galia Hatav, 03/11/1999
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