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  • From: Yochanan Childs <jayc AT telepath.com>
  • To: Doug Kasten <doug.kasten AT juno.com>
  • Cc: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: A Synthesis of Ancient Palestinian Religion
  • Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:38:39 -0600




Doug Kasten wrote:

> Dear Lloyd,
>
> Thanks for your clarification. Your appreciation for my perspective is
> noted and likewise appreciated. As I'd said, I wasn't insulted or
> offended by what you wrote, and your (unneeded) apology certainly
> demonstrates your desire for civility. My initial posting to you had to
> do with the nature of your argumentation and my growing disinterest. I
> simply wanted you to know why.
>
> As a demonstration that the presuppositional Divide still divides us,
> consider these words of your response to me:
>
> "That El and Yahweh were the gods of the peoples of Israel and Judah is
> self-evident."
>
> Ah, a return to the crux! I'm afraid our schism is more final than
> further explanation or clarification can account for. No, it's not
> "self-evident". You asked, some time ago, of the list's participants if
> you'd convinced them that El and Yhwh were two different gods. Most
> responses were an outright 'no' and I think I remember a qualified 'yes'
> or two. My problem remains that you presuppose something that isn't
> easily (or at all) 'provable' and leave those of us who don't share your
> presuppostions behind at that point. This is why I don't read your
> postings anymore. This is just one citation from your response. There
> are others I could cite with ease that make clear why we are at
> presuppositional odds.
>
> You're free to hold your presuppositions, of course. I simply wanted to
> let you know that I exercise my freedom not to read further as a result
> thereof.
>
> I've read your most recent posting in its entirety since I believe I
> prompted it, and it's the minimal courtesy due you. However, my initial
> position remains, and you have lost a reader unless you can somehow
> mitigate the forcefulness of your presuppositions. If not, we have a
> civil, though decisive, parting of ways.
>
> Thanks for your attention to this matter. From time to time I'll check
> in again with your postings to see what you're assuming in your
> arguments. Who knows? As for the moment, feel no need to address this
> issue any more, at least as far as I'm concerned. You'd do far better
> with your time addressing an audience which shares more of your
> 'assumed'. I likewise will be turning my attention to what is truly
> productive for me at this time.
>
> Warmly,
> Doug
> Dt. 6:4
>
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Doug,

Bravo, Brother:

I couldn't have said the above better myself. I doubt that anyone could.
Having been
a Hebraist for five short years and having spent the majority of my adult life
studying systems of believe, theistic, atheistic, henotheistic and
polytheistic, I
have come to the conclusion that the more theories are floated denying the
essential
personality of the God of Israel, the more reasonable the Judeo-Christian
doctrines
seem to be.

In peace,


Jay Childs





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