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- From: yochanan bitan <ButhFam AT compuserve.com>
- To: "Bryan Rocine" <596547 AT ican.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Niccacci & semantics
- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:50:04 -0500
shalom Haverim,
when comparing systems and discussing problems people need a common playing
field, which is why problems develop when quoting some people:
niccacci is basically lacking a semantic dimension to his linguistic model.
notice that in his model he must collapse nominal clauses together with
x-qatal clauses !
he does not have a semantic framework for dividing these. he does not have
a semantic distinction for differing 'predication frames', frames that may
both generate an 'argument' at the start of the surface clause.
[friedrich did the same for old aramaic.]
until niccacci can distinguish the semantics of x-qatal from verbless
clauses i would continue to caution students in their use of him.
i find that trying to generate surface output along his theoretical lines
produces a psychologically impossible/improbable language.
[verbless: he is at the store. (fine)
verbal: went-he to the store. (fine)
x-verbal1: he is a wented-ing-to-the-store-kind-of-guy??? [this is not the
normal semantic function of BH x-qatal]
x-verbal2: to-the-store is a wented-ing-kind-of-guy???
better, semantically and syntactically with room for pragmatic discussion:
have a predication frame that allows fronting/pre-verb placement of
predication consitutents.
in other words, a generative model of language exposes niccacci's 2 'lists'
as unworkable.]
linguistic theory must deal with syntax, semantics and pragmatics. deleting
one dimension is not a step forward.
braxot
randall buth
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Re: Niccacci & semantics,
yochanan bitan, 02/10/1999
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Niccacci & semantics, Alviero Niccacci, 02/12/1999
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