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- From: Peter_Kirk AT sil.org
- To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Re[2]: Literal translation of Dan 11:32
- Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:37 -0500 (EST)
Concerning the following, I just found an interesting comment:
[In Hosea 11.5-7]... the final peak is marked by a grammatical
inversion, plural-singular; singular-plural of subjects and objects:
"they called-HIM; no one will lift-THEM."... This also resembles the
previous peak in 11.3, "But I made Ephraim walk, taking THEM on HIS
arms." In Hosea this kind of switch in number for the same referent
within a line is one of the strongest markers of peak, with over 99%
probability of nonchance...
from LF Bliese "Symmetry and Prominence in Hebrew Poetry: With
Examples from Hosea", in ER Wendland (ed) "Discourse Perspectives on
Hebrew Poetry in the Scriptures", UBS 1994.
So I wonder if the shift of number for (AM in the passages indicated
below also indicates peak? Certainly Dan 11:32 is some kind of peak.
Looking briefly at the other references Lewis has listed, several of
them could be considered peak, but not all. Perhaps peak is one of the
reasons for such grammatical irregularity.
Peter Kirk
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Subject: Re: Literal translation of Dan 11:32
Author: LBR AT sprynet.com at internet
Date: 26/09/1998 07:44
...
Interestingly, this is not the only verse where (aM is
treated both as plural and as singular. A cursory search
turned up the following examples in Exodus:
Ex. 4:31 - WaYYa):aM"N Hf(fM WaYYi$:M:(W.
Ex. 12:27 - WaYiQoD Hf(fM WaYiY$:TaX:aWW.
Ex. 16:4 - W:YfCf) Hf(fM W:LfQ:+W.
Ex. 17:2 - WaYYfReB Ha(aM (iM Mo$eH WaYYo(M:RW.
(and similarly Ex. 20:15; Ex. 33:4; Ex. 33:10; Lev. 11:32;
Num. 20:3; Num. 21:7; Num. 25:2; Josh. 6:20; Josh 24:16;
Josh. 24:21; Judges 9:42; Judges 20:22; Judges 21:2;
1 Samuel 4:3; 1 Samuel 4:4; 1 Samuel 14:32. I did not
continue my search past this point, having satisfied
myself that this was not a rare occurrence.)
Does the relative frequency of this interesting phenomenon
suggest the possibility that Biblical Hebrew may have
regarded this collective noun as having a dual character as
both a singular assembly and a plural collective that did
not necessarily require consistent treatment within a
verse?
Lewis Reich
LBR AT sprynet.com
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Re: Literal translation of Dan 11:32,
Paul Zellmer, 09/24/1998
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- RE: Literal translation of Dan 11:32, Lewis Reich, 09/24/1998
- RE: Literal translation of Dan 11:32, Paul Zellmer, 09/25/1998
- Re: Literal translation of Dan 11:32, Paul Zellmer, 09/25/1998
- RE: Literal translation of Dan 11:32, Ben Crick, 09/25/1998
- Re: Literal translation of Dan 11:32, Paul Zellmer, 09/25/1998
- RE: Literal translation of Dan 11:32, Lewis Reich, 09/26/1998
- Re: Literal translation of Dan 11:32, Paul Zellmer, 09/26/1998
- Re[2]: Literal translation of Dan 11:32, Peter_Kirk, 09/29/1998
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