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  • From: Mike Linksvayer <ml AT gondwanaland.com>
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  • Subject: [acawiki-general] Fwd: [Wiki-research-l] Closed-sourced papers on open source communities
  • Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:13:31 -0400

Interesting idea for AcaWiki below.

Also see Greg Grossmeier's
http://www.stuartgeiger.com/wordpress/random-thoughts/2011/06/12/closed-source-papers-on-open-source-communities-a-problem-and-a-partial-solution/#comments



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chitu Okoli <Chitu.Okoli AT concordia.ca>
Date: Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 13:18
Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Closed-sourced papers on open source
communities
To: wiki-research-l AT lists.wikimedia.org


Great idea, Stuart. This is definitely a great, albeit partial, solution!

I'll take it a couple steps further: First, in information systems
publications--I don't know about other fields--it is quite common to
borrow and adapt tables, not just figures, from other sources. As far
as I understand (someone should please correct me if I'm mistaken),
this is done under fair use/fair dealing laws. As long as the figures
or tables copied or modified are just one small part of the article
from which they are taken, copyright infringement has never been an
issue. I've certainly copied third-party figures in this way (with
appropriate citation, of course), and the journal's editorial office
never mentioned a word about it.

Your solution makes this case even stronger: if the journals have no
issue with borrowing third-parties' articles or tables under fair
use/fair dealing laws, I couldn't imagine they would have an issue
with using our own relicensed work.

My second extension: Extending this principle to tables should fill in
the gap for qualitative research, which you mentioned in your blog as
a possible limitation. You are right that most qualitative research
might not be so meaningfully captured in graphs (though there are
numerous creative exceptions); however, qualitative articles can
effectually summarize the entire substance of their arguments and
findings in well-written textual tables. I'm hoping that the
rejuvenated AcaWiki (according to the thread from a couple months
past) could provide a CC publication outlet for such tables, in the
same spirit as Wikimedia Commons serving for graphs.

~ Chitu
Regards,

-----------------------
Chitu Okoli
Associate Professor in Management Information Systems
John Molson School of Business
Concordia University, Montréal

Phone: +1 (514) 848-2424 x2985
http://chitu.okoli.org/pro

From: R.Stuart Geiger <sgeiger AT gmail.com>
Date: 2011/6/13
Subject: [Wiki-research-l] Closed-sourced papers on open source
communities
To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities <
wiki-research-l AT lists.wikimedia.org>


Greetings wikiresearchers,

As many of you know (and as we've discussed on this list before),
the
copyright licensing of academic papers about communities like
Wikipedia is a huge issue. I've just written up a blog post
about
this, but the tl;dr is that I have a bit of a solution, be it a
partial one. The gist is basically that asking academics to
release
*papers* under a free license is the wrong strategy. Instead, we
should encourage academics to release *research* under a free
license,
and that this can be done in such a way that still makes it
complies
with most of the contradictory obligations we have found
ourselves in.

It is quite possible to document a research project, its
motivations,
its methods, its background, its findings, and even all those
charts
and graphs on Meta, using the new Research: namespace and
corresponding templates that were *just* launched -- which
everyone
should check out anyway. And while I'd love some legal
non-advice on
this, I think we can do this in such a way that whenever it comes
time
to assign copyright to the ACM, all of the CC-BY/CC-BY-SA
licensed
graphs can be "used with permission" in a published research
paper.
Anyways, the link is below, and I'd love to get some feedback on
it:
http://www.stuartgeiger.com/wordpress/random-thoughts/2011/06/12/closed-source-papers-on-open-source-communities-a-problem-and-a-partial-solution/

Thanks!
Stuart Geiger


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