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  • From: "Linda Shewan" <linda_shewan@yahoo.com.au>
  • To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Ignore the anti-vaccination mindset
  • Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:25:52 +1100

We in the permaculture world know that taking care of the whole is
essential. Injecting a chemical to make a plant 'immune' to a pest or
disease is simply not the way permaculture looks at the world... so why
would a permaculture practitioner believe that in human disease we are
somehow outside the rest of the ecosystem?

"so far only idiots go for that stuff"

Actually it is the highly educated sector society that are coming to this
decision, like myself. That's been well acknowledged. We read, we research,
we listen, we examine. It's part of us, the university trained sector, to
NOT blindly follow.

Have you really done due diligence research on this one? I'm not actually
anti-vax - just won't allow anyone to inject formaldyhde, aluminium etc into
my children. Have you read the side effects listed by the pharmaceutical
companies on the vaccination box insert sheets? That's their own data...

I could list neurologists, paediatricians, doctors etc that caution the vax
situation. I could advise that Maerk scientists are taking Maerk to court
over their lies and deception around vaccinations. I could tell you about
the over 2000 people that were acknowledged as dying in the US in 2010 from
SAFE vaccines and the billions paid in damages from the vaccine court. I
could tell you Andrew Wakefield was absolved in court from any wrongdoing. I
could tell you personal stories from friends and people I have met as well.
Incredibly tragic, distressing stories.

But I won't. You can find all this information if you are interested. If you
truly want unbiased information you would look outside the box and find it.
Incredibly highly trained specialists have written books, given lectures,
had their careers destroyed to speak out. Ignore at your loved ones peril.

When we chose not to vaccinate 17 years ago my parents thought we were
insane. They have done their research over the intervening years and now
think we were sensible.

And this is utterly permaculture because we know that taking care of the
whole is essential. Injecting a chemical to make a plant 'immune' to a pest
or disease is simply not the way permaculture looks at the world... or are
humans somehow outside the rest of the ecosystem?


Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
Of Lawrence London
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2015 7:04 AM
To: permaculture
Subject: [permaculture] Ignore the anti-vaccination mindset and have anyone
needing it vaccinated...IT IS SAFE.

Ignore the anti-vaccination mindset and have anyone need them
vaccinated...IT IS SAFE.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
wrote:

> LL et al...on a tangent but in many ways related. I hope many readers
> of this site have already signed in to this newsletter. As an avid
> researcher of all things health and nutrition which obviously is
> directly linked to our worlds of Pewrmaculture this is one of the best
> I have found
>
> http://www.mercola.com/
>

I am surprised at you Steve, spamming the list with a site promoting
anti-vax; so far only idiots go for that stuff, and you know it.
Its so absurd and dangerous it is funny.

You've been paying too much attention to those anti natural ag fascist
spooks in the BD list and community; They are another permizz.con-like bunch
of ignorant poseurs bent on raining hell on good folks with ambitions to
become Sovereign Pesants.
one in particular who condoned the CIA-Pinochet coup of the Allende
government in Chile. They murdered Allende, Neruda and Jara.
The jackass said that "well, they [Pinochet] had to do _something_, Allende
was arming all the leftists in the country". If only I had a screenshot of
that little exchange we had in comments on Farcebook. You need to realize
that the overtly evil <can't even remember his name> is no visionary and
certainly no one to follow.
Are you a peasant, Steve.
The majority of your organizational work and list input is of timeless value
and without equal. Extricate yourself from the influence of those poseurs
and con artists.

LL


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