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  • From: Chris and Lisa Laudeman <chrisandlisa AT laudeman.com>
  • To: Liz Lindsey <liz.lindsey AT duke.edu>
  • Cc: John Cotterman <johncotterman AT yahoo.com>, ocba <ocba AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [ocba] Installation questions
  • Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:36:15 -0400

Liz, you used the verb "tumped". I love it.

Good that you mentioned the candy plug should be upward. John, her comments on that are stock advice. Marty might have mis-typed.

Good luck to John, and you shouldn't hesitate to ask for an experience beekeeper to mentor or at least look over your shoulder as you install packages.  That will take out a lot of stress and make the experience better for learning and success all around.

Being that I'm only marginally employed right now, I might be available :-p

Take care,

Chris


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Liz Lindsey <liz.lindsey AT duke.edu> wrote:
You can also spritz them with sugar water so they can't fly away, and cut open the package so they gently can be tumped out into new hive. Candy end of queen cage should point upward when placed in new hive. That way if attendants die, they fall below and with candy entrance above, queen won't be trapped in cage with dead bees blocking exit. 

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On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:04 PM, "Marty Hanks" <marty AT justbeenc.com> wrote:

Hello John and welcome!!

I don't recall who posted that, but it can happen in very rare situations. I've only seen-heard about it happening once. The situation there was a bad queen from the package co. She died a few days later so they knew she was a bad queen and went where the good one was. So its not out of the realm of occurring, but no way the norm. I'd rather suggest you keeping them where they will be and stay. "IF" you have that situation then you'd be better off them all going into one hive than flying away. Again its rare.

I only do the set in method. The old books show that shake out and yea i did it too my first time, but it is stressful on the bees. Best to make their into to your yard the best it can be. They are correct in setting aside 5 frames. Just go back in the next day and slowly remove the box and set it beside the hive in case there are any stragglers. Move the 5 in there as one unit (you can do this cause there is no propolis build up yet) to the center and insert the remaining frames. 

Most important thing for intro of packages is to remember to remove the cork in the queen cage! also making sure she is attached to the frame very well. either staple the plastic strap or have a large rubber band ready. Point the candy downward. Place the feeder on and go at it. Next hardest job...staying out. :-)

Good luck! 
marty 


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, John Cotterman <johncotterman AT yahoo.com> wrote:
Newbie here. Just completed the OCBA spring classes. Got 2 hives setup and ready for package delivery this weekend. I read somewhere that some beek had a bad experience with installing 2 packages the same day with hives right next to each other. Something about how all the bees went into one hive and chaos ensured. He recommended temporarily separating the 2 hives by 20-30 feet, installing, then moving them closer in a dsay or so.. Is this a legitimate concern?

Another question. The Delaplane book suggest taking 5 frames out and putting the opened package into the space and waiting (several hours?)  for them to leave the package and enter the hive. Most others I've seen just shake them and dump them in. Am I being too much of a fussy beginner to not want to upset my bees by shaking and dumping them in? After all, I want to gain their trust. (Do I?)

John Cotterman


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