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  • From: Weston Lant <weston AT luckyfieldorganics.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Vole Salad Bar
  • Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:16:25 -0500

The active ingredient in Quintox is Cholecalciferol which is vitamin D3. OMRI lists Cholecalciferol in it's "allowed substance" materials list. My organic certifier verified this for me two years ago and I just checked again and it is still listed. The product "Quintox" is not a listed product per se. Quintox is labeled for Rats and mice, voles are essentially a type of mouse I believe. It is a rodenticide, so I don't think it would do much to a woodchuck. We had issues with winter planting in hoophouses, what a surprise green food in the dead of winter. In mid crisis it wasn't all that effective, they prefered to eat the greens. In the absence of disireable food they will eat the Quintox and it does what it is supposed to do quite well. You have to get to them prior to planting, or if you have had a bad incident with them, remove the desirable food source and place the Quintox out fairly heavily and it will be more effective because they are hungry. We use it as part of our overall program to keep the voles at bay. The traps that have been mentioned all have worked at one time or another, each must be tailored to the situation for best effect. Also, when we build hoop houses we put a baseboard around the bottom of our hoop houses where we attach alluminum flashing onto the wood and dig it into about a 6" trench. This makes a pretty good barrier to all but the most determined voles especially if they haven't figured out whats going on inside the houses yet. It also makes a good seal against drafts. Below is the link to the OMRI materials list. Best of luck. wstn

http://www.omri.org/simple-gml-search/results/Cholecalciferol

On 3/1/2010 9:54 AM, stonecirclefarm tds.net wrote:
Do woodchucks eat Quintox?

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Weston Lant
<weston AT luckyfieldorganics.com> wrote:
Quintox is a good solution, OMRI approved, and it is not a poison, rather
it is a form of vitamin D I believe. Rodents can't process excessive
amounts of it and it is safer that high or low explosives. There is no
danger of secondary kill (unless another vole goes onto a protein diet).
Best presented before the introduction of a salad bar, as given a choice....

Voles 2 wstn 3

wstn
Lucky Field Organics.

On 2/28/2010 2:15 PM, BarbaraJ wrote:

Maggie,
My only moderately successful plan of attack has been cats. I have six,
they live outside, I replace them if necessary (i.e. they are lost to
another predator). I do believe there are nasty chemical controls, but I
can't use them. Cats, gotta love them when they do the job they are
designed to do. :) All the best of luck to you in your war. And honestly,
Caddyshack takes on a whole new meaning when battling the varmints.

Barb
Front Range, Colorado


----- Original Message -----
From: Maggie Palmer
To: 'Market Farming'
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Vole Salad Bar
They chowed down on the Pac Choi and the Te You (Chinese Broccoli) and the
Hon Tsai Tai (Broccoli Raab), were only half interested in the onions.

We are moving the cat to the greenhouse, getting another cat, adding one of
those sound devices and building Coleman style vole traps. If I put more
seedlings in, I'll definately put them up on a vole-proof bench--Thanks
Steve.

It kind of puts you at a standstill when the greenhouse is ready for
planting and the voles will decimate them if you do. Voles 1 Maggie 0

Maggie Palmer
Painted Sage Farm
Quanah Parker Place
Daniel, Wyo
307-859-8349

www.paintedsagefarm.wordpress.com

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[mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
clearviewfarm AT bluefrog.com
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:32 PM
To: Market Farming
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Vole Salad Bar

Thanx for the vole proof bench details.

My ? about types of things that voles like, wasn't necessarily directed at
you, Steve, but anyone who can or cares to comment.

I wondered what kinds of seedlings voles like, whether green or brown or
white or...

Kurt Forman
Clearview Farm
Palmyra, NY 14522

--- MAsteveINE AT 207me.com wrote:

From: "MAsteveINE"<MAsteveINE AT 207me.com>
To: "Market Farming"<market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Vole Salad Bar
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:53:56 -0500

?



Pardon my ignorance, but, what are green things that voles would eat? For
that matter, what are non-green things that voles would eat?
Kurt Forman
Clearview Farm
=========================================================================
Pardon me, I do not find "green" in my post!

check for yourself:

""Things that voles would eat, placed on benches that voles cannot climb
onto are not eaten by voles.

MAsteveINE""

====================================================

Are benches that voles would not climb on to, special kinds of benches or
just any old bench?
Kurt Forman
======================================================
At this place 4' x 8' bench sections are placed on inverted 5 gallon plastic
buckets, or
8" x 8" x 16" concrete blocks placed on end; and to date, voles have not
attacked the contents.



OMMV

MAsteveINE

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